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Star Trek, the Television Series
December 23, 2021, 07:23 PM
TMatsStar Trek, the Television Series
I’ve stated that I am not a fan of Sci-Fi or Fantasy, but…I had fond memories of the tv show from all those years ago. All three seasons are available on Prime and I started watching a few weeks ago. I just finished episode 12 of season one and I’m thoroughly enjoying it. The picture quality and effects are primitive, but the writing is great. The women are beautiful, Susan Oliver in the last two-part episode, Menagerie, and I like Shatner. I know he’s considered (like Nicholas Cage) as one who over-acts, but I like him. Anyway, it’s enjoyable.
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December 23, 2021, 09:08 PM
mark123I am a Trekkie from back in the olden days. I recently got my wife into them but we didn’t start with the original series. We did TNG, Voyager, DS9 and are on the last season of Enterprise.
We almost didn’t start Enterprise because I thought it was terrible when it was first broadcast on Network Television. Probably because I watched the only bad episode (Carbon Creek). Turns out it’s very good but Archer can be a real ass. And sometimes immoral.
Recently, we watched a few episodes of the original series and it’s just a bit too cheesy for the wife.

We saw the one with Frank Gorshin last night. Hilariously campy but a product of its time in taking on racism. Goodness, that bridge is noisy. Bleeps and bloops and computer card reader noises. We should have watched these ones first because the quality of the spin-offs are much higher. It’s hard to take that step back.
December 23, 2021, 09:33 PM
Lord VaalicDid TNG, and DS9 haven't watched Voyager yet.
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goose5I enjoy most aspects of Trek. I just got a DVD of Pickard. So far I'm enjoying it. The only one I just couldn't get into was Discovery.
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December 23, 2021, 11:19 PM
sigspecopsI grew up watching reruns of the original series. Some of the episodes haven't aged well for sure, but I still enjoy them.
Aside from the original, DS9 was my favorite of the Star Trek series.
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December 23, 2021, 11:35 PM
46and2The cheesy horror of the Enterprise theme song was enough to put me off of that series for a while, but eventually it hit Netflix and included the ability to Skip Intro, and it was okay after all.
I'm a fan from ToS forward, most every variant, with the recent Discovery being my least favorite to date. The shows, the films, old and new, I definitely prefer the Trek universe to Star Wars and like something about all of the iterations.
December 24, 2021, 08:34 AM
TMatsFWIW, I’ve never seen
any of the other iterations of Star Trek, all those abbreviations are unknown to me. It’s interesting to find that Sulu and Chekov are not yet the helmsmen in season 1. I’ve seen Sulu briefly in a couple episodes, but Chekov has yet to make an appearance.
I found out that Susan Oliver contracted colon cancer and died at just 58. Yeoman Rand is a prominent character in this season, and she wears this complex weaved hair style that’s pretty silly. How do you get up and go to work?
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December 24, 2021, 08:47 AM
apprenticequote:
Originally posted by 46and2:
The cheesy horror of the Enterprise theme song
I've often said it was the intro that turned off most folks to that series.
Now then, if you substitute the theme from "Vikings" in your head, it works much better.
December 24, 2021, 10:55 AM
YooperSigsIt true that Shatner is no Olivier but he has done some good work and has had an amazing career. And he can poke fun at himself as well. His role as The Big Giant Head on Third Rock From The Sun was a hoot. ToS could have typecasted him and finished his career but he beat it.
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December 24, 2021, 11:24 AM
goose5I thought Shatner was brilliant on Boston Legal.
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December 24, 2021, 12:37 PM
kkinaquote:
FWIW, I’ve never seen any of the other iterations of Star Trek, all those abbreviations are unknown to me. It’s interesting to find that Sulu and Chekov are not yet the helmsmen in season 1. I’ve seen Sulu briefly in a couple episodes, but Chekov has yet to make an appearance.
George Koenig was cast later because the Russian Consulate complained there were no Russians on a supposedly multi-cultural bridge.
I guess you'd call that Woke Factor One.
December 24, 2021, 12:47 PM
kkinaI remember when ST/TOS premiered. It was a Thursday and they called it a "sneak preview". They started with the episode about the salt creature, which was actually the 5th episode in the season. I remember saying to my wise eight-year-old self, "This is going to be big."
December 24, 2021, 02:03 PM
mttaylor1066You will find Sulu and Chekhov in most episodes of season 1, but then they disappear for an episode or three.
That’s because there is union rule about actors that appear in a certain number of episodes… once they exceed that number, Gene Roddenberry would have to pay them more per episode.
So he shuffled actors in the minor roles, to screw the regular cast out of wages.
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December 24, 2021, 04:27 PM
lymanquote:
Originally posted by kkina:
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FWIW, I’ve never seen any of the other iterations of Star Trek, all those abbreviations are unknown to me. It’s interesting to find that Sulu and Chekov are not yet the helmsmen in season 1. I’ve seen Sulu briefly in a couple episodes, but Chekov has yet to make an appearance.
George Koenig was cast later because the Russian Consulate complained there were no Russians on a supposedly multi-cultural bridge.
I guess you'd call that Woke Factor One.
Walter Keonig/Checkov
George Takei / Sulu
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December 24, 2021, 04:28 PM
lymanquote:
Originally posted by mttaylor1066:
You will find Sulu and Chekhov in most episodes of season 1, but then they disappear for an episode or three.
That’s because there is union rule about actors that appear in a certain number of episodes… once they exceed that number, Gene Roddenberry would have to pay them more per episode.
So he shuffled actors in the minor roles, to screw the regular cast out of wages.
maybe,
but I don't think Checkov came about until season 2,
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December 24, 2021, 04:46 PM
mark123quote:
Originally posted by TMats:
FWIW, I’ve never seen any of the other iterations of Star Trek, all those abbreviations are unknown to me.
TOS = Star Trek (the original series)
TNG = Star Trek: The Next Generation
VOY = Star Trek: Voyager
DS9 = Star Trek: Deep Space 9
ENT = Star Trek: Enterprise
ENT was supposed to have occurred something like 100 years (not sure) before TOS in the timeline.
December 24, 2021, 04:51 PM
kkinaquote:
Originally posted by lyman:
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Originally posted by kkina:
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FWIW, I’ve never seen any of the other iterations of Star Trek, all those abbreviations are unknown to me. It’s interesting to find that Sulu and Chekov are not yet the helmsmen in season 1. I’ve seen Sulu briefly in a couple episodes, but Chekov has yet to make an appearance.
George Koenig was cast later because the Russian Consulate complained there were no Russians on a supposedly multi-cultural bridge.
I guess you'd call that Woke Factor One.
Walter Keonig/Checkov
George Takei / Sulu
Oops, yes, thanks for catching that.
December 24, 2021, 05:43 PM
Rawnyquote:
Originally posted by mark123:
TOS = Star Trek (the original series)
TNG = Star Trek: The Next Generation
VOY = Star Trek: Voyager
DS9 = Star Trek: Deep Space 9
ENT = Star Trek: Enterprise
...and there's STD, something nobody wants to catch, no matter what it stands for.
December 24, 2021, 06:01 PM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by TMats:
All three seasons are available on Prime and I started watching a few weeks ago. I just finished episode 12 of season one and I’m thoroughly enjoying it.
You'll need to speed up your watching schedule if you want to make it through all 3 seasons in time... All Star Trek shows are leaving Amazon Prime starting January 1st.
Amazon's Star Trek streaming contract with Paramount is expiring, and they're all being consolidated onto Paramount's own proprietary streaming service, Paramount+.
December 24, 2021, 06:05 PM
airsoft guyquote:
Originally posted by kkina:
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FWIW, I’ve never seen any of the other iterations of Star Trek, all those abbreviations are unknown to me. It’s interesting to find that Sulu and Chekov are not yet the helmsmen in season 1. I’ve seen Sulu briefly in a couple episodes, but Chekov has yet to make an appearance.
George Koenig was cast later because the Russian Consulate complained there were no Russians on a supposedly multi-cultural bridge.
I guess you'd call that Woke Factor One.
Akshually:
According to Gene L. Coon in his The Making of Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry wanted to add in a young Englishman to appeal to younger demographics. However, he received a written complaint from Russian sources, who complained that Star Trek – though trying to fashion a future where the world was united – was ignoring the USSR, which, at the time, was the leader in the space race. Roddenberry soon after altered his English youth into Chekov.
On the video release of William Shatner's Star Trek Memories, Walter Koenig himself said that the Russians didn't say anything about there being no Russians on the Enterprise and the Pravda article that Roddenberry and Coon referred to likely didn't exist because at the height of the Cold War, no American programming was airing in Russia. (Allan Asherman's The Star Trek Compendium says that the Pravda journalist "[had] seen a Star Trek episode televised in Germany", but Star Trek didn't air in Germany until 1972.) According to Koenig, the character was created to add Davy Jones-like appeal to the show and the Russian heritage was added by Roddenberry because he wanted to honor the fact that the Russians were the first people in space. In his first couple of episodes, Koenig indeed wore a Monkees-style wig to look more like Davy Jones. ("To Boldly Go...": Season 2, TOS Season 2 DVD special features) Ironically, during the time of TOS in the late 1960s, Soviet teens sporting this look, derisively called "hairies" and viewed as dangerously rebellious by their elders, were often arrested and had their hair cut off by the police. Sauce with moar sauce.
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