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Yeah, the 1980s were the heyday of the "Satanic Panic", when hysterical parents were convinced that everything - from novels to tabletop games to rock music - were nefarious plots by demons to corrupt their children's souls, and every unsolved murder was bound to have been caused by secret cultists practicing human sacrifice. It finally started to peter out in the 1990s. but never truly went away in certain circles. My parents briefly jumped on that Satan Everywhere! bandwagon, circa the mid/late 1980s. All of a sudden, saturday morning cartoons were The Devil. Breakfast cereal was The Devil. Ninja Turtles were The Devil. All non-Christian music was The Devil. Muppets were The Devil. Luckily, that only lasted a year or so. But shortly afterwards they fixated on banning me from wearing certain colors of clothing for the next couple years, mainly red or blue, which they were certain were going to get me shot in a gang-related drive-by on my suburban elementary school playground. I shit you not, my Mom had a sheet of paper on which she had noted which colors were "gang-related" (probably based on some news blurb), and when we went clothes shopping she would have to consult her notes to determine whether I could get that color of shirt or not. No matter that I was a chubby little white kid and we lived leagues away from the nearest urban nest of bloodthirsty gangbangers. No, they were convinced that if little RogueJSK dared to be seen wearing red or blue in public, the Bloods and/or Crips were going to appear and execute me on sight. I blame partly Dr. Dobson/Focus On The Family, and partly the evening news, for all their elementary school parenting overreaction foolishness. Thankfully they unclenched around the time I moved up to middle school. | |||
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I have a (female) friend who has banned any mention of KFC in her house or to her kids because they are promoting the video game 'Diablo IV' and she thinks they are encouraging Satan worship. I just shake my head. Of all the shit going on in this country, not to mention the craphole that Minnesota is becoming with the current DFL majority, and this is the stuff she gets spun up about? | |||
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Never have been able to figure out why faith in a deity so often makes people have even more faith that evil is everywhere. What do you gotta protect me from so badly Mom? Isn't God good for it? Yup, I didn't get to play until I left home either. Only thing we ever sacrificed for it was our ability to attract females. | |||
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Never seen a D&D movie but I'll bet they can't beat the original ... Wizards.... greatest movie ever to watch in a theater late at night stoned.... And the ending is even perfect for a gun forum like this.... "I wanna show you a trick Mother showed me when you weren't around....."This message has been edited. Last edited by: Blume9mm, My Native American Name: "Runs with Scissors" | |||
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I was a little skeptical of the movie, and I appreciate the heads-up here. Re: D&D Nerdiness: as an RPG nerd in my early teens in the ‘80s, I spent an inordinate amount of time at the local B. Dalton Booksellers establishment, particularly around their selection of D&D-related literature and paraphernalia. So frequent a loiterer was I that one time, a customer called-in to ask a store associate a number of questions about the game, questions the associate was quickly flummoxed by. Said associate put the call on-hold and asked 13- or 14-year-old me if I could assist the caller, which I promptly did, walking them through the subtle nuances that existed between D&D, Advanced D&D, D&D Basic vs. D&D Expert, etc., etc. Somewhere along the way in all my loitering, I did otherwise buy books from that B. Dalton (not only D&D stuff but the fabled “Mack Bolan” works, etc.), but I think that customer-assist phone call earned me some brownie points with the staff LOL. "The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli." - George Costanza | |||
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First of all. Pace that is a very nice collection of AD&D books. IF you look them up some of them are actually worth a good amount of money depending on condition and what printing they are..I played Basic and AD&D when they came out before moving on to Hero games and Star frontiers. So I definitely was excited to watch Honor among thieves. Pedrocola...... I agree that it sucked but not for the same reasons. Pros-- 1. The actors were good. I thought they did a decent job with the poorly written story. 2. I liked the special effects. 3. They used groups, magic and monsters from the actual game. wich is cool for a fan of D&D. 4. There was some funny moments. Cons--- 1. Poor writing. Whomever wrote the script should have been floggged. I wanted something with more substance and edge that appealed to adult viewwers. Like something closer to GOT. 2. Wokeness-- Wizards of the Coast is now run by a bunch of liberals who want inclusion and everybody to be whatever they want to be. wich takes away from the game play | |||
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My high point (low point) was Michelle Rodriguez fighting basically a platoon of fully armored soldiers. Literally full up armor including full helmets with face shields. She is punching them in the face (metal face shield on a metal helmet) and they go down like bricks. She is punching armor and knocking guys out. It’s like the age old argument of what exactly does Storm Trooper armor stop exactly? Comically silly. Ronin might be right. Maybe the actors didn’t phone it in, the script was so retarded that I might have blamed it on them. I never played DD so none of the game references meant anything to me. If you make a DD movie though you probably should plan on a bunch of people not being dungeon masters and write your script accordingly. Lol Spoiler ahead. When I said bad CGI I specifically meant that scene with the cats and the fish that swallowed the kitten. It was such a stupid scene I may be getting the facts wrong. My sister (60) and I looked at each other and both were like, did they really just put an actor in a cat fuzzy costume? It was horrendous. | |||
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That scene with the Tabaxi child that's rescued from the fish and handed to their parent wasn't CGI (computer generated imagery). The fish, kitten, and cat parent were physically created animatronics. So yes, it was a person in a cat suit, with a puppeteer off-screen robotically controlling the facial features in the head. Just like in the days before CGI. Whereas CGI would have involved filming either an actor in a motion capture suit or just a placeholder item (like a tennis ball), and then digitally inserting a computer-generated character over top of that. Like Gollum in Lord of the Rings, for example. Or the big blue aliens in the Avatar films. The creators of this film made a deliberate choice to render many of the individual characters in this film via practical effects, not CGI. Like the Dragonborn (dragon guy) and Aarakocra (eagle guy) parole board members, which were also animatronics. From https://www.polygon.com/237243...vie-creatures-tabaxi
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Hmmm. Saying that shitty fuzzy costumes that look fucking retarded "is part of the movie's charm" is another way of saying the director is a moron. I have zero issue with choosing costumes over CGI. I have issues with making the costume look like walking through Disney's Hall of the Presidents in 1975. Bad is bad. It isn't charming. That entire article where the makers of the film defended their choices would be entirely plausible had their movie not sucked ass. Yet it sucked ass so their choices were poor choices. You can't make a shitty movie better by explaining why it was better, you make it better by making a good movie in the first place. This ain't that. I called it CGI, it was not CGI. My bad. (I knew it wasn't CGI but if the filmmaker didn't feel the need to give a shit about the viewers I didn't give a shit about accurately describing their shit product either. lol) If they had spent as much time worrying about the script as they apparently did about how Neverwinter looked this thread might be going a different direction. They should have made a diorama instead of a movie. | |||
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bigger government = smaller citizen |
You touched a nerve. Better hope you roll a save. “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”—H.L. Mencken | |||
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A man's got to know his limitations |
I saw this tonight on Prime, I never played the game or knew anything about it. I liked it, had some really good fantasy action scenes in it, the people that quit half way missed out on some good action and humor. I was entertained, but I don't looks for things wrong. "But, as luck would have it, he stood up. He caught that chunk of lead." Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock | |||
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Honestly, WotC and D&D are dying IPs now that Hasbro’s plans for OGL and e-D&D are out in the open. “D&D is huge and unstoppable!” (Yeah so was Star Wars…) Pathfinder is pretty sweet though, if you haven’t tried it yet. “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”—H.L. Mencken | |||
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Donate Blood, Save a Life! |
I played AD&D in the early 80s and ran my own campaign for several years through college and grad school, plus I’ve played a number of D&D video game adaptations and even written quite a few Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser stories (fan fictions of Fritz Lieber’s duo on which parts of D&D were based). This movie took a lot of good elements of Dungeons & Dragons and combined them together with varying success. The writing, particularly in the first half, left something to be desired, but I chalked at least part of this up as the need to establish the setting and tell the backstory of the characters. Some of the characters weren’t very believable (but that’s entirely in the nature of the game to make it fun for those of both sexes). The creatures were very well done (owl bear, anyone? Displacer beast and gelatinous cube) in both CGI and animatronics, and the action and the story improved in the second half when it was straight action plot rather than convoluted backstory. It’s not going to win any awards for best picture or screenplay but it was a fun popcorn movie that can be worth a viewing if you enjoy fantasy-type settings and if it’s playing on your streaming service at no additional cost. My wife and I both enjoyed it, 3.5 of 5*. *** "Aut viam inveniam aut faciam (I will either find a way or make one)." -- Hannibal Barca | |||
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I'm going to be weird. I liked it. It reminded me of some of the ways our games would go on tabletop. I can look past some stuff in a fantasy movie. | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
As a big fan of D&D 3E/3.5E (despite its quirks), I gladly switched over to Pathfinder 1E when the D&D 4E abomination came out. Pathfinder was basically D&D 3.75E, so it was an easy transition, and was a much better option than going with 4E, plus they fixed a number of the remaining issues with 3E/3.5E, though not all. However, with a few exceptions, I mostly prefer D&D 5E to Pathfinder, though I haven't tried Pathfinder 2E yet. And 5E is certainly way more accessible to a new player or the average casual tabletop gamer than Pathfinder or earlier D&D editions, and the simpler 5E system is one of the primary reasons why D&D has exploded in popularity lately. | |||
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