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Other than his seeming drop in form/pace? He did well today, though it took him a while to get past the AMR. The MB is still not a great car, I think, so they're both doing their best with what they've got. I think they were running different downforce pkgs this weekend as well. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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A bigger question is why did McLaren had so much drag for a track that places a premium on straight line speed? The pundits placed the blame on a rear wing they’re running. That seems like a simple enough thing to fix. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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Yeah, Norris got swallowed up. Was shocked to see how easily the Alfa got by him. Expected Alfa to struggle on such a high speed track, no points got a decent result for them. Zhou got multiple overtakes on the last stint. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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It seems like drag is a recent McLaren problem. I'm not too sure if it's as big a deal or not since Norris had serious floor damage on Friday quali that I don't know if it was fixed, and Piastri went out on Lap 1. As for Russell, it seems most of his problems are down to luck and getting shafted by Mercedes strategy during qualifying. He might be trying to overdrive the car to make up for it and causing more problems for himself. | |||
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^^^ I dunno. George had the best of Hammy last year, this year a complete opposite. And yeah, a lot has gone wrong for GR so there's that. Going into last year Hammy was coming off the soul crushing end to the previous campaign, I don't think he recovered fully for some time. This year Hammy has upped his game I think, maybe spurred on by the geriatric Alonso's performance. FWIW this year and last, Sir Karen has produced more mental mistakes, in driving and attitude. Still, Lew is fast, maybe GR has driven about the same and it's Hamilton whose performance has yo-yo'd. If it turns out George isn't getting equal treatment from the team, that wouldn't surprise me either. If George has been pushing too hard, now knowing he's too far behind LH in points to catch him and Russell can relax and go out there and produce the results I believe he has in him. Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. | |||
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Last year, Russell did have the best of Hamilton in the first half of the season, when the car was bad. After Merc improved the car starting in Canada, Hamilton was out scoring Russell (even though Russell got their only win in Brazil). Same this year. Car started off bad, and Russell was winning. Improved starting at Monaco, and Hamilton comes back. George does better in a poorer car. When they make improvements to the car, Hamilton does seems to do better. | |||
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Adding to that thought experiment, are the Mercedes upgrades providing more of a gain to Hamster's driving style vs. Russell's? They do have 8 years of data on while Lewis likes in a car. | |||
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This was my thought as well, and could be partly to blame for Max's dominance over Perez. Start the year at/near 0 & develop the car to suit your lead driver, with #2 having to just manage it. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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I had the exact same question. I do not know what F1 can do, but they have to neuter Max, somehow. Him running away by 30 seconds every single race is not good for the sport overall. Even hardcore fans, like us guys in this thread, are losing interest. | |||
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^^ Sounds like “equity”  __________________ "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician." -Jeff Cooper | |||
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A bit off topic, but also a good video that describes one of the biggest problems F1 has right now. | |||
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That was a fun watch, even compared to the 2004 V10 cars, the current field is massive The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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[/QUOTE] I had the exact same question. I do not know what F1 can do, but they have to neuter Max, somehow. Him running away by 30 seconds every single race is not good for the sport overall. Even hardcore fans, like us guys in this thread, are losing interest.[/QUOTE] The quickest way would be for Red Bull to provide a more capable and competitive teammate. In other dominant seasons, Mercedes had Rosberg, Red Bull had Webber, Mclaren had Prost, Williams had Mansell. The rest of the field is very competitive. After this year, Red Bull will be handicapped with more restrictions and Perez will look even weaker. If Perez and someone like Ocon and Gasly were the Red Bull drivers, we wouldn't be having this discussion. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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As much as I can't stand the book, Verstappen: The Whiney Prima Donna, he does look like he fits the description of one of those "generational talents" that sports media types seem to love to harp and wax poetically about. He's one of those obviously talented types that doesn't just merely want to win, but venomously abhors the notion of finishing any place but first. Like Senna. Like Schumacher. Considering his age, short of some devastating injury or some sort of collapse of Red Bull, he's set himself up to be the dominant driver in F1 for the next decade. Even if F1 steps in and tries to 'rebalance' the field, all they can realistically do is revamp the rules for everyone and hope that Adrian Newey decides to retire...or develops dementia... Or they can hope that Verstappen gets bored of all this domination stuff and decides to try his hand at some REAL driving, like WRC.  I'm sure young Kalle Rovanperä would love the chance to show Max a thing or two about what it takes to win at rallying.-MG | |||
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I read earlier this week, some talks of F1 adopting balance of performance (BoP) like WEC uses. Really hope they don't do that. If anything, bring back something like the token system where teams can make some midseason upgrades on frozen aspects like the PU, with maybe some cost cap allowances attached to it. But, IMO, don't throttle the leaders for finding the route to the best car. Instead, allow the lower teams to improve & catch up. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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A little fun during the Summer break from Red Bull and Johnny FPV -- Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. | |||
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HAAS: Retains Mag/Hul for 2024
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I think Hulkenberg could really be a good stable driver for Haas, but they seem to have trouble making speed. I really enjoyed practice this morning. Was great to see them back on the track. SUMMER break is over  This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson | |||
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Lawon to replace Riccardo for Dutch GP
In the replay, that wheel did a 360* nearly instantly as the wheel hit the barrier. Can't imagine that felt good from that alone, then having it fling your hand around the cockpit. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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I'm interested to see how Liam Lawson does. However, I'm shocked that Ricciardo got a broken hand from that. I'm used to hand injuries in IndyCar during crashes with no power steering, but this is a new one. I guess they'll have to teach F1 drivers to get their hands off the wheel if they're going to crash. | |||
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