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February 08, 2023, 04:45 PM
P250UA5
Formula 1 Discussion
quote:
Originally posted by DanH:
Looks like Red Bull is doing the ICE while Ford is working on the electric side.


3 posts above you Razz

quote:
Originally posted by P250UA5:
RBPT is building the ICE, and Ford will be contributing on the EV side of it.
Haven't seen any mention of Cosworth in the mix.





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February 09, 2023, 05:49 AM
marinemaster
If Ford is not building the engine and just the EV part then I dont know what Ford is really making at all. Their Mach-E EV has like 30 rubber hoses in an electric motor while Tesla and VW have like 5 to 10 hoses so not encouraging.
February 09, 2023, 08:17 AM
220-9er
I suspect the statement they made about supplying the electrical part is mostly marketing talk.
They may be be paying for the electrical part but probably not much more than that. Maybe Red Bull lets them put their engineers there to see what they can learn.


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February 09, 2023, 03:07 PM
9mmepiphany
quote:
Originally posted by marinemaster:
If Ford is not building the engine and just the EV part then I dont know what Ford is really making at all.

I don't think there is a requirement that they make anything in order to slap their name on a car...they just have to write a check.

It isn't like Nissan or Alfa Romeo really contributed to the engineering of the Red Bull or Sauber, respectively, when they were tittle sponsors




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February 09, 2023, 03:15 PM
P250UA5
quote:
Originally posted by 9mmepiphany:
quote:
Originally posted by marinemaster:
If Ford is not building the engine and just the EV part then I dont know what Ford is really making at all.

I don't think there is a requirement that they make anything in order to slap their name on a car...they just have to write a check.

It isn't like Nissan or Alfa Romeo really contributed to the engineering of the Red Bull or Sauber, respectively, when they were tittle sponsors


Well, I believe Nissan [Infiniti in the RBR sense] has some stake in Renault, 15% apparently.
That & RBR using Renault engines for a time ties them up a bit.




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February 10, 2023, 07:09 AM
DanH
Wrong way. Renault owns a majority stake in Nissan/Infiniti.
February 10, 2023, 08:20 AM
P250UA5
quote:
Originally posted by DanH:
Wrong way. Renault owns a majority stake in Nissan/Infiniti.


Per Wiki, FWIW:
Renault ownership:
French State 15.01%
Nissan: 15% [cross ownership]
Public: 62.74%

Nissan ownership:
Renault: 43.7% [cross ownership]

So, a bit both ways, I suppose.




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February 13, 2023, 10:57 AM
P250UA5
Alpha Tauri AT04 Reveal






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February 13, 2023, 02:02 PM
TMats
quote:
Originally posted by P250UA5:
Red Bull RB19 Reveal

More of the same, about as expected, IMO.
But, is that a Rokit sponsor on the side of the cockpit? They weren't the brightest of sponsors with Williams, but not near as bad a Rich Energy.




quote:
Team Principal Christian Horner has already hinted that the car will look different when it rocks up in Bahrain for testing.



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February 13, 2023, 02:05 PM
P250UA5
McLaren & Aston had their covers pulled off today, as well.








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February 14, 2023, 08:42 AM
P250UA5
Ferrari SF-23 Reveal






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February 14, 2023, 04:28 PM
220-9er
I'll be glad when something happens on track that isn't just part of the PR end of things.
They're all potential world beaters right now.
It won't be long.


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February 14, 2023, 04:34 PM
P250UA5
Still promo: But a 23 spec car under it's own power



Jump to 1:50 for the SF-23 on track (Fiorano?)





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February 14, 2023, 04:40 PM
jhe888
Ferrari looks good, but it is hard to go wrong with almost all red.




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February 14, 2023, 05:34 PM
P250UA5
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
Ferrari looks good, but it is hard to go wrong with almost all red.


Look 1000% better without the Mission Winnow graphics, especially the revolting green bit from a couple years ago.




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February 15, 2023, 06:53 AM
Georgeair
quote:
Originally posted by Georgeair:
Interested to see if Merc actually does another black car.

Wink



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February 15, 2023, 07:42 AM
P250UA5
Mercedes W14

Back to black. Roll Eyes
Just doesn't look as good as silver.





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February 15, 2023, 01:21 PM
9mmepiphany
quote:
Just doesn't look as good as silver.

But I'll bet it is way lighter




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February 15, 2023, 01:29 PM
jhe888
I like the all-black. I thought silver was kind of bland.




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February 15, 2023, 02:05 PM
P250UA5
Kills the Silver Arrows moniker
But yes, I'm sure grams are saved by not having to paint/wrap the car
And when grams = seconds, color is a secondary concern.




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