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Game of Thrones Season 7
August 28, 2017, 07:43 AM
RHINOWSOGame of Thrones Season 7
Great finale - no surprise that Cersei is betraying the North; John Snow aka Aegon Targaryen was right to tell her to fuck off.
Glad that Tormond and Beric Dondarrion survived the Dead Dragon attack by running the length of the wall. If they are going to die, they need good deaths.
August 28, 2017, 09:34 AM
YellowJackethow will Dany feel about another man jumping in front of her in the Iron Throne line? I imagine Jon will not want the job, at least at first. But he is not only the rightful heir... he is also best-suited to it.
Like I said a few pages ago... Azor Ahai has to forge his sword by first thrusting one into water (Euron?), then one into a Lion (Lannister), then into his wife's heart... Will he have to kill Dany in order to kill the Night King?
I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log. August 28, 2017, 10:18 AM
IndyRobWe really didn't need to see Jon and Dany hook up, and Baelish's death was a long time coming, I think it should have happened as soon as Arya arrived back at Winterfell.
How the fuck is that dragon flying with those big ass holes in it's wings?
August 28, 2017, 10:24 AM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by IndyRob:
How the fuck is that dragon flying with those big ass holes in it's wings?
Magic.
August 28, 2017, 10:24 AM
rusbroquote:
Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
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Originally posted by HuskySig:
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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
So why was Tyrion all lurking and bummed out?
Waiting for the invite that never came...
He's not hot for her. Now Mormont on the other hand I can see being bummed out by it all.
Last season, or maybe the season before, there was at least one scene where I thought it was obvious how taken Tyrion was with her. Maybe it was strictly because he saw her as a savior to the world, but at the time it sure looked like love to me.
As far as Jorah, I wonder if he's begun to resign himself to Jon+Dany. Seems like he saw the potential as soon as he landed at Dragonstone. Then there was the moment in the episode before last where Jon tried to give Jorah Longclaw, but Jorah refused it and spoke of Longclaw as being for Jon, and his children to come. That seemed to me like maybe a recognition of Jon's future with Dany. I think Jorah probably knows his love for Dany can never be reciprocated in the way he longs for, so he wants what's best for her.
August 28, 2017, 10:26 AM
rusbroquote:
Originally posted by Oz_Shadow:
I'm not so sure that was an ice dragon.
Seemed like he still breathed fire, only blue.
August 28, 2017, 10:44 AM
Deqlynyup, finally get to rest the debate whether an ice dragon breaths fire or ice. Would have been funnier if Viserys was just adding ice to the wall... wah wah
What man is a man that does not make the world better. -Balian of Ibelin
Only boring people get bored. - Ruth Burke August 28, 2017, 10:54 AM
lkdr1989So you're saying he got friend-zoned?
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Originally posted by rusbro:
.... I think Jorah probably knows his love for Dany can never be reciprocated in the way he longs for, so he wants what's best for her.
...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV
"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV August 28, 2017, 11:00 AM
Lord Vaalicquote:
Originally posted by lkdr1989:
So you're saying he got friend-zoned?
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Originally posted by rusbro:
.... I think Jorah probably knows his love for Dany can never be reciprocated in the way he longs for, so he wants what's best for her.
Oh, yeah he's in the friend zone for sure, been there for a while
Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day August 28, 2017, 11:10 AM
IndyRobquote:
Originally posted by rusbro:
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Originally posted by Oz_Shadow:
I'm not so sure that was an ice dragon.
Seemed like he still breathed fire, only blue.
Are we sure? The wall didn't melt, it was crushed and fell to pieces.
August 28, 2017, 11:10 AM
rusbroquote:
Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
So you're saying he got friend-zoned?
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Originally posted by rusbro:
.... I think Jorah probably knows his love for Dany can never be reciprocated in the way he longs for, so he wants what's best for her.
Oh, yeah he's in the friend zone for sure, been there for a while
Well, he could be Daddy or Uncle zoned, and since she's Targaryen, that could be a good thing!
Did we see Beric and Tormund buried/crushed, or is there some TV-world hope they survived the falling of the wall? Seems like that wouldn't be a proper end for either of them, and especially Beric. It seems unlikely his purpose was fulfilled by capturing the wight. There's got to be more to his story.
August 28, 2017, 11:14 AM
rusbroquote:
Originally posted by IndyRob:
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Originally posted by rusbro:
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Originally posted by Oz_Shadow:
I'm not so sure that was an ice dragon.
Seemed like he still breathed fire, only blue.
Are we sure? The wall didn't melt, it was crushed and fell to pieces.
Not positive, but it at least didn't seem like pure ice. Dragon's breath seems to carry a lot of force/staying power beyond mere flame, as if there's a volatile liquid that kind of explodes, and remains for a time after the initial blast.
August 28, 2017, 12:33 PM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by rusbro:
Did we see Beric and Tormund buried/crushed, or is there some TV-world hope they survived the falling of the wall? Seems like that wouldn't be a proper end for either of them, and especially Beric. It seems unlikely his purpose was fulfilled by capturing the wight. There's got to be more to his story.
They were clearly shown to still be alive on top of The Wall, after part of it fell down.
They managed to run far enough West along the top of The Wall to escape the collapse of the far Eastern portion.
August 28, 2017, 02:25 PM
barleyquote:
Originally posted by rusbro:
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Originally posted by IndyRob:
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Originally posted by rusbro:
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Originally posted by Oz_Shadow:
I'm not so sure that was an ice dragon.
Seemed like he still breathed fire, only blue.
Are we sure? The wall didn't melt, it was crushed and fell to pieces.
Not positive, but it at least didn't seem like pure ice. Dragon's breath seems to carry a lot of force/staying power beyond mere flame, as if there's a volatile liquid that kind of explodes, and remains for a time after the initial blast.
The fire breathing dragons are breathing a flame much hotter than normal fire, i.e. can burn men straight to ash. I "imagine" that the frost flame is much colder than normal cold so much so that it is creating contraction on the wall that would cause the ice to fracture, etc.
Still we're talking about magical beasts and whatnot.
August 28, 2017, 02:47 PM
RAMIUSHa! For a minute, I seriously thought the walker thing in the crate was dead.
August 28, 2017, 02:59 PM
rusbroquote:
Originally posted by RAMIUS:
Ha! For a minute, I seriously thought the walker thing in the crate was dead.
Well, he was
They (the writers and director) seemed to make a lot of Bronn and Pod leaving the dragon pit, as if those remaining were concerned Bronn and Pod knew something everyone else didn't - knew everyone in the pit was going to be killed. I figure it was Bronn seizing the opportunity to inquire about working for the competition. Could also be Bronn wanted to get the hell out of there before Dany showed up on Drogon, as they might have a wee bit of a grudge against him after the whole bolt-to-the-shoulder thingy.
August 28, 2017, 03:06 PM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by rusbro:
I figure it was Bronn seizing the opportunity to inquire about working for the competition.
That was my first thought as well. As he insinuated during his conversation with Tyrion, he's taking care of himself by playing both sides, hedging his bets on who's going to win. So I do believe he was working out a deal with Pod.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bronn meets up with Jaime early next season, and they then both join up with the Targaryens.
Leading, it would appear, to Jaime likely being the brother who fulfills the prophecy of killing Cersei, further cementing his infamous role as a King/Queenslayer.
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Could also be Bronn wanted to get the hell out of there before Dany showed up on Drogon, as they might have a wee bit of a grudge against him after the whole bolt-to-the-shoulder thingy.
I don't think either Dany or Drogon know who fired the bolt. He was too far away to be recognizable.
August 28, 2017, 03:28 PM
OrgussTwo of the things that bother me most about the show are the inaccuracies in time and distance. It's been calculated that the distance between Hardhome and Eastwatch-by-the-Sea is approximately 150 miles and that the army of the dead could cross that distance in about 3 days, yet it's months between when John and Tormund went on their mission to Hardhome and when the dead finally arrive at the Wall. (This is from researching the Internet.)
When Jon leads the expedition to capture a wight, they encounter the army of the dead probably 50 miles from the Wall. (I'm totally guessing this.) So we're supposed to believe that Gendry ran all that distance back to the Wall in the space of a few hours, which is hardly possible, sent a raven 1500 miles to Dragonstone, which would take about 30 hours, and that Dany could fly back on Drogon at an unknown speed. Yet, we see the stranded group as having spent only one night before being rescued by Dany. (This is actually addressed on the Internet, showing that the raven and Drogon would both have to fly at far greater speeds than is realistic.)
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corsairWas fully expecting to see Theon beaten to death on the beach.
His story arc went from an arrogant jerk, to pathetic creature. Theon became a cowardly, timid, shell of a man, who was incapable to fending for himself and reliant on others; whether a slave or, a free but scared soul. The GoT MO is not one of redemption stories and seeing Theon getting his ass beaten, was expecting his story to end...not one where a knee to the nub/scar gets him a shot of adrenaline.
August 28, 2017, 03:37 PM
snideraquote:
Originally posted by Orguss:
Two of the things that bother me most about the show are the inaccuracies in time and distance. It's been calculated that the distance between Hardhome and Eastwatch-by-the-Sea is approximately 150 miles and that the army of the dead could cross that distance in about 3 days, yet it's months between when John and Tormund went on their mission to Hardhome and when the dead finally arrive at the Wall. (This is from researching the Internet.)
When Jon leads the expedition to capture a wight, they encounter the army of the dead probably 50 miles from the Wall. (I'm totally guessing this.) So we're supposed to believe that Gendry ran all that distance back to the Wall in the space of a few hours, which is hardly possible, sent a raven 1500 miles to Dragonstone, which would take about 30 hours, and that Dany could fly back on Drogon at an unknown speed. Yet, we see the stranded group as having spent only one night before being rescued by Dany. (This is actually addressed on the Internet, showing that the raven and Drogon would both have to fly at far greater speeds than is realistic.)
For the 1st paragraph, it wouldn't have made sense to march on the wall before this - they didn't have an ice dragon to knock it down.
But otherwise, you are correct that the travel timelines are ridiculous. I just think there's no way to keep the storylines in sync without it. Normally shows & books show passage of time in season/book breaks. They had to make large movements mid season in the last few seasons. It's not the worst technical sin they could commit. I just quit thinking about that stuff & let myself be entertained.