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May 16, 2017, 11:02 PM
jimmy123x
Better Call Saul season 3
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Originally posted by sandman76:
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Nacho was in BB. He was Tuco's henchman and worked at his father's upholstery shop mostly as a cover up to his drug dealings. He used Mike to help him facilitate side drug deals.


You're thinking of last season on BCS. With the guy that bought the yellow Hummer. And then got ripped off by Nacho.


No, Nacho was in Breaking Bad as well.

http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/Nacho_Varga
May 17, 2017, 02:47 AM
furlough
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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
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Originally posted by sandman76:
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Nacho was in BB. He was Tuco's henchman and worked at his father's upholstery shop mostly as a cover up to his drug dealings. He used Mike to help him facilitate side drug deals.


You're thinking of last season on BCS. With the guy that bought the yellow Hummer. And then got ripped off by Nacho.


No, Nacho was in Breaking Bad as well.

http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/Nacho_Varga


What? That link, which appears to be very detailed, shows him appearing in every season of Better Call Saul but never being on-screen in Breaking Bad, and only one possible reference.

Great character regardless.




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May 17, 2017, 06:44 AM
ravens1775
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Originally posted by furlough:
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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

No, Nacho was in Breaking Bad as well.

http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/Nacho_Varga


What? That link, which appears to be very detailed, shows him appearing in every season of Better Call Saul but never being on-screen in Breaking Bad, and only one possible reference.

Great character regardless.


Yeah, the site says there was a reference by Jimmy to Nacho in BB. I looked at IMDB last night when this was brought up, and there wasn't a BB appearance listed.
May 17, 2017, 09:05 AM
Jus228
Sounds like we need to watch BB again. Big Grin


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May 17, 2017, 09:26 AM
DMF
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Originally posted by apprentice:
"...yeah, like 'sall good man." Brilliant! Big Grin

Never made that connection. Did it ever come up in Breaking Bad?
Not in "Breaking Bad," but it has come up in earlier episodes of "Better Call Saul," when they would flashback to his time as "Slippin' Jimmy."


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May 17, 2017, 09:32 AM
DMF
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Originally posted by NavyGuy:
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You're thinking of last season on BCS. With the guy that bought the yellow Hummer. And then got ripped off by Nacho.


Okay, these are starting to run together.
Yep, if "Nacho" was in "Breaking Bad," then he would have been played by a different actor, because Michael Mando, does not have "Breaking Bad" in his acting credits.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3103126/?ref_=tt_cl_t6


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"He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater

"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman
May 19, 2017, 09:20 PM
crossroader
I don;t know about "bland," or "go along to get along," but I like Kim.


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May 19, 2017, 10:16 PM
Rey HRH
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Originally posted by at-home-daddy:
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Originally posted by jhe888:

And McKean is brilliant in the part. Odenkirk is excellent, too. I think Seehorn doesn't get as much credit as she deserves. She isn't as flashy a character, but I see lots of little moments in her performance that are excellent.


I find her acting very flat, toneless...but then again I can't figure out if that's a certain lack of dramatic skill (or comparitively, anyhow, against the rest of the exemplary cast) or if she's just playing a flat character exceedingly well. I would agree, though, that McKean is brilliant...the show really wakes up when he's on screen, as it does when Esposito (Gus) appears.


I think her acting skills are excellent. Just look at the nuance after the meeting with the regulatory body. From the moment the scene starts at she walks out, sense her clients coming out, makes a U-turn, then go through the explanation of the ongoing ethics hearing. Everything about her acting was so very much a part of the character.

And her character doesn't have any idiosyncracies like the other characters to fall back on. The only one I can note is her cigarette smoking.



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May 20, 2017, 08:44 AM
BRL
It wasn't until I saw how incredibly annoying she seemed to be in real life on "Talking Saul" that I realized what a good job she does acting the part of Kim. The restraint must be exhausting for her as in real life she came off as a fidgety Chatty Cathy, almost as if she was on something. I was kind of disappointed in this as I kind of had a crush on her (or Kim anyway) until I saw that episode of Talking Saul.



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May 22, 2017, 10:43 PM
Bisleyblackhawk
Was it just me or was that the Sklar Brothers (twins from old History Channel shows back when the History Channel had non alien shows) in the music store?

I enjoyed this episode...things are fleshing out quite well...("The Playah" is back) Razz

I felt sorry for the young girl who offered the money back to Jimmy...she really gets it and knows he is struggling...she has empathy, you can see it in her character Frown...that was well done IMHO....

Kim setting outside in front of the glass block wall smoking when Jimmy shows up in the Kelly green shirt is golden...

Each and every character (and their subtle nuances) is well done in this day and time of TV.


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May 23, 2017, 02:28 AM
Rey HRH
Saul had me when he started breaking down in the insurance office.

I'm not sure if he really started breaking down and then switched to screw his brother or was he faking breaking down to get the person to help him then switch to screwing his brother or was it fakery all from the beginning to screw with his brother.

I suppose the ex-cop is going to do a good turn for the widow.

I am really liking this series. It reminds me of the pathos that was in the Monk series.



"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
May 23, 2017, 02:31 AM
Rey HRH
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Originally posted by Bisleyblackhawk:
I felt sorry for the young girl who offered the money back to Jimmy...she really gets it and knows he is struggling...she has empathy, you can see it in her character Frown...that was well done IMHO....



that scene was really good. And it also showed a side of Saul that showed he really is decent. he could have taken the money, he could have not paid them at all and made the argument that he didn't get any money from the deal and was just rolling the dice. But instead he paid them off and wouldn't take the girl's charity.



"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
May 23, 2017, 10:39 AM
at-home-daddy
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Originally posted by Rey HRH:


that scene was really good. And it also showed a side of Saul that showed he really is decent. he could have taken the money, he could have not paid them at all and made the argument that he didn't get any money from the deal and was just rolling the dice. But instead he paid them off and wouldn't take the girl's charity.


It's that dychotomy of Jimmy's character that really keeps the show interesting...you never know quite what to expect from him (or from many of the other characters, for that matter).

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Saul had me when he started breaking down in the insurance office.

I'm not sure if he really started breaking down and then switched to screw his brother or was he faking breaking down to get the person to help him then switch to screwing his brother or was it fakery all from the beginning to screw with his brother.


Another good example. His character is so conflicted in motivation that you're never quite sure -- unless the writers spell it out -- what his end goal is.
May 23, 2017, 07:15 PM
furlough
That was some Grade-A Saul Goodman workin' it in that last scene. Fantastic.

And I just can't get enough of Mike. Hey, you plan on killing your boss? Do it right, young punk.




This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears above ground he is a protector.
Plato
May 23, 2017, 07:28 PM
Jus228
Awesome episode. That breakdown in the insurance office was something. I want to say it was all planned to screw over Chuck but at the same time I don't think it started out that way but he said screw it might as well have something come out of that situation.


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If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off

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May 23, 2017, 10:08 PM
DMF
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Originally posted by Bisleyblackhawk:
. . . was that the Sklar Brothers . . .
Yes, it was. Smile

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt57...dits?ref_=ttrel_sa_1


___________________________________________
"He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater

"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman
May 23, 2017, 10:12 PM
DMF
Did I miss something? Any idea why hearing about Anita's husband seemed to motivate Mike to call "Pryce," and agree to go with him to meet Nacho?


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"He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater

"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman
May 23, 2017, 10:38 PM
hjs157
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Originally posted by DMF:
Did I miss something? Any idea why hearing about Anita's husband seemed to motivate Mike to call "Pryce," and agree to go with him to meet Nacho?


I assumed when Mike learned Anita's husband's fate was still unknown, he was reminded of the truck driver Hector ordered killed after the heist. Having a hard-on for Hector and already anticipating Nacho's intentions, he decided to assist in the plan.
May 23, 2017, 10:44 PM
NavyGuy
Seems like Kim is starting to have empathy for Chuck and is a bit bothered that Jimmy still has a vendetta. I'm thinking this might be what eventually drives them apart. Someone mentioned earlier that they thought Kim might develop romantic feelings for Chuck. That looks more plausible after this last episode. If not romantic, then some sort of an alliance that's not beneficial to Jimmy.

Good episode. So much happening. Three more, with a break next week.



Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves.

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May 23, 2017, 11:03 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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Seems like Kim is starting to have empathy for Chuck and is a bit bothered that Jimmy still has a vendetta. I'm thinking this might be what eventually drives them apart. Someone mentioned earlier that they thought Kim might develop romantic feelings for Chuck. That looks more plausible after this last episode. If not romantic, then some sort of an alliance that's not beneficial to Jimmy.


I think Kim is more guilt ridden than displaying empathy for Chuck. She also takes some vicarious pleasure in scamming people as she and Jimmy look for easy marks in the bar. She is a pretty good enabler and not completely innocent. She encourages some of this scheming herself, but tries to deny it to herself. All the characters are conflicted which makes the program much more realistic and entertaining.