I've had varnish on the nose from new bottles. Sometimes a little bit of air made it better. Sometimes not.
December 30, 2016, 03:32 PM
Deqlyn
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Originally posted by berto: I've had varnish on the nose from new bottles. Sometimes a little bit of air made it better. Sometimes not.
its been sitting about 3 years now... Im afraid to go back.
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December 30, 2016, 03:45 PM
berto
Dump it or find an enemy to pawn it off on.
December 30, 2016, 03:51 PM
biggsig
Anyone have any ETL sightings?
December 30, 2016, 04:09 PM
jigray3
We had ETL hit here in the middle of December and I managed a few bottles, but it dried up very quickly. I've been keeping an eye out since for forum member sureshot, but nothing. This allotment seemed much smaller than normal.This message has been edited. Last edited by: jigray3,
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December 30, 2016, 04:49 PM
GA Gator
Elmer T was in ATL early December I picked it up then. We also got Stagg Jr at the same time. I picked up a Stagg Jr earlier this week.
I am now at the point that I could be happy buying Buffalo Trace products that are readily available and not bother with most other brands. An occasional Four Roses or ECBP will be thrown in.
I had EHT small batch last night and it was a bit hot straight but with a little cool water it opened up nice.
I see this regularly on the shelf, I wouldn't hesitate to substitute this for ETL. Especially considering this year's price of ETL was $39.99 . I believe the EHT small batch is at that price point.
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December 30, 2016, 06:09 PM
CaptainMike
Careful with the EH Taylor. I bought (and paid top dollar) for their 100 proof rye that was, quite honestly, the only undrinkable liquor I have ever bought. Smelled and tasted just like mineral spirits. Awful.
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December 30, 2016, 06:22 PM
GeeTen
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Originally posted by biggsig: Anyone have any ETL sightings?
ETL has landed in AR - just ask sureshot45!
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December 30, 2016, 08:14 PM
Deqlyn
Taylor rye is fantastic. Do you generally like rye?
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December 30, 2016, 09:09 PM
YellowJacket
My shop is bare bones with anything special right now, except a few lottery-only bottles.
I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log.
December 30, 2016, 09:35 PM
biggsig
If anyone is willing to part with an ETL, please let me know!
Happy New Year!!!
December 30, 2016, 09:47 PM
sureshot45
I big thank you to GeeTen, he found and sent me 2 bottles of ETL that came in today and I'm enjoying a glass currently.
Thank you to all the others who had an eye out as well.
Originally posted by Deqlyn: Taylor rye is fantastic. Do you generally like rye?
I drink a lot of ryes, although all I have on the shelf right now are Pikesville and Russell's reserve 6 yr. I tend to also prefer high rye mash bill bourbons in barrel strength. The bottle of EHT rye I got was flat undrinkable. No one who tasted it (or even smelled it) would ever have put it in a bottle. You guys talking varnish on the nose, this was more like pure turpentine.
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December 31, 2016, 12:42 PM
Deqlyn
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Originally posted by CaptainMike:
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Originally posted by Deqlyn: Taylor rye is fantastic. Do you generally like rye?
I drink a lot of ryes, although all I have on the shelf right now are Pikesville and Russell's reserve 6 yr. I tend to also prefer high rye mash bill bourbons in barrel strength. The bottle of EHT rye I got was flat undrinkable. No one who tasted it (or even smelled it) would ever have put it in a bottle. You guys talking varnish on the nose, this was more like pure turpentine.
I am really surprised by that, I think 46n2 said its in his top 4 ryes, mine as well. I never get that smell, I wonder if they bottled some bad swill or you got the switcheroo? I dont think pikesville or any of jimmy russels rye hold close to EHT. interesting.
I just checked mine, the nose on it is sweet vanilla with rye under-notes. I even did a tasting last weekend with non whiskey drinkers and they loved. Id call BTAC if I were you.
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December 31, 2016, 04:56 PM
46and2
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Originally posted by Deqlyn: Been polishing a few bottles from the bunker. Switching from many bottles to high quality. Finally below 80 to about 78ish.
December 31, 2016, 05:27 PM
46and2
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I find myself not stocking perfectly good bourbon simply because it's common.
I generally agree, but offer three cautionary examples to the contrary:
* Elmer T Lee was as common as most anything just a few years ago and under $30 * Baby Saz was nearly considered bottom shelf and under $20 just a handful of years ago * and Old Grand Dad 114 was a no-name under $30 offering and quite common
The current situation regarding all three is pretty bad, and getting worse.
If you like it, regardless of cost or commonality, I suggest you stock it, and stock it deep.
Market forces and crafty bastards are doing their best to continue the Scotch-ization of Bourbon, and the days of truly good and not particularly expensive ones are numbered, which is a shame as that's been one of the very best parts of Bourbon all along, the lack of pretension and the lack of fancy bullshit, excessive and semi-artificial rarity, and high $$$.
I should have stocked what I like even deeper than I have (I had been trying to limit myself to simply always having 3 in my booonker for every 1 open bottle, which is plenty when availability and prices are stable and it had been workable given my choice to stock 20 different choices (which itself seemed super conservative, only 20, after all - like Deqlyn - I had around 60 open bottles). I now believe it would have been best to focus on fewer and 2-5x deeper, with the simple goal of being able to enjoy my favorites for many years and not get buttfucked by how the trends are going. Imagine the situation 20yrs from now, and even if the next batch of (whatever) in 20yrs is very good, it'll never be the same juice.
ymmv
December 31, 2016, 05:42 PM
46and2
Yes, I'm thoroughly surprised by Captain's experience with the Taylor Rye. It and the Taylor Barrel Strength Bourbon are two of the best new to me things I've tasted in ages, and I wish I had cases of each. Tastes are subjective, but that one just sounds bad. I'd call.
December 31, 2016, 06:50 PM
rekstrom
So what available affordable bourbons would you start stocking up on?
I have a local deal on WT Rare Breed at $10 / 375, so i am stocking up since i like it at 112 proof
They also have Elijah Craig Small Batch at $16, so picked up a couple as i like it too.
They also have Russels 10 for $25, and KCSB 120 for $37, might get that. Oh, and Bookers for $45 (Costco also hasbit at this price point.)
Eagle Rare and Four Roses single or small are also available at a fair price.
The BTAC collection is unfortunately hard to find and overpriced.
What else?
December 31, 2016, 08:01 PM
berto
If you're going to stack deep make sure it's stuff you really like. There's no point in having cases of something you find just ok but got a deal on.
Your price on Rare Breed is really good. If you like Booker's you should grab it while you can. If you've never had it you should get one to try.
January 02, 2017, 03:47 PM
jigray3
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Originally posted by rekstrom: So what available affordable bourbons would you start stocking up on?
I have a local deal on WT Rare Breed at $10 / 375, so i am stocking up since i like it at 112 proof
They also have Elijah Craig Small Batch at $16, so picked up a couple as i like it too.
They also have Russels 10 for $25, and KCSB 120 for $37, might get that. Oh, and Bookers for $45 (Costco also hasbit at this price point.)
Eagle Rare and Four Roses single or small are also available at a fair price.
The BTAC collection is unfortunately hard to find and overpriced.
What else?
You're getting some good prices and everything you mention is worth owning, some might be better values. Bookers is slated to raise the retail to $100 and cut production significantly, so it's certainly one I'd consider at $45 as I like barrel proofs.
Another choice for value that is slated to disappear entirely is Old Grand Dad 114. Try one, if you like it, stock up. I'm hearing prices are rising on this one as people find out it's not going to be around much longer.
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