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Trekkies - Borg question
February 26, 2018, 11:26 PM
Lord VaalicTrekkies - Borg question
If the Borg came out of a quadrant very far away, and they assimilate all different kinds of life, why are they all white humans? (Because they are racist, yes) Where are the other races?
I know they explained why all the races are similar in appearance, bi-pedal, two eyes, symmetrical body etc, in the sector as the result of an ancient race seeding the sector with DNA that was all similar and then it all developed differently on different planets, but the Borg are not from that area.
Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day February 26, 2018, 11:36 PM
airsoft guyMost of the life in the Milky Way looks like us, even way out in the Delta Quadrant.
Here, nerd out:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Borg
quote:
Originally posted by Will938:
If you don't become a screen writer for comedy movies, then you're an asshole.
February 27, 2018, 12:40 AM
Lord VaalicI will dive in
Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day February 27, 2018, 01:54 AM
CD228Probably due to the cost of makeups and costumes. Maybe because they would scare the viewer more? Interesting question, I'd love to hear the official answer. Airsoft Guy's link was pretty informative, I was worried that it was a trap, but it wasn't.
February 27, 2018, 08:38 AM
erj_pilotGreat question!! Never noticed or paid attention to that. Yeah...what about an Andorian Borg?? Xindi Borg? Suliban Borg? I've never seen any.
I'm wrapping up the last 10 or so episodes of Star Trek: Enterprise. It's been pretty good...
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xweslerquote:
Originally posted by CD228:
Probably due to the cost of makeups and costumes. Maybe because they would scare the viewer more? Interesting question, I'd love to hear the official answer. Airsoft Guy's link was pretty informative, I was worried that it was a trap, but it wasn't.
Part of the official answer is that all assimilated species acquire a similar skin tone (white in the original appearances, and a more sickly ashy gray as they progressed).
In various media all races, whether they were human, Klingon, Cardassian, Hirogen, etc...developed near-identical ash gray skin tones once assimilated into the Collective, regardless of their original skin tones.
From an out-of-universe perspective, I believe it was to give them a more corpse-like appearance...it makes them scarier. Slow, shambling, unstoppable, and death-like creatures that if they even touch you, can assimilate you.
Edit: Here's a Klingon Borg from First Contact:
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The first 100 people to make it out alive...get to live.
February 27, 2018, 11:05 AM
Rob DeckerBorg in Voyager had better makeup in terms of facial ridges and humanoid but distinctly non-human features.
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Death smiles at us all. Be sure you smile back.
February 27, 2018, 04:12 PM
egregoreI have read they were initially conceived as
insectoid, but that is pretty hard to pull off in live action and on a TV budget. In fact, that's the whole reason behind most
Star Trek alien races being humanoids.
February 27, 2018, 04:19 PM
zoom6zoomI think it points up the idea that there's no individuality in such a collective.
I have my own style of humor. I call it Snarkasm. February 27, 2018, 04:46 PM
just1tymquote:
Originally posted by airsoft guy:
Most of the life in the Milky Way looks like us, even way out in the Delta Quadrant.
Here, nerd out:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Borg
Being a Stargate Atlantis fan, if you travel out farther like the Pegasus Galaxy, the farther you get the whiter they seem, like the albino-like Wraith..
Regards, Will G.
February 27, 2018, 05:16 PM
21bubbaSo who wins in a battle, the Borg or Q?
"I'm sorry, did I break your concentration"? February 27, 2018, 05:22 PM
Chowserquote:
Originally posted by 21bubba:
So who wins in a battle, the Borg or Q?
Couldn’t the Q just think the Borg out of existence?
Not minority enough! February 27, 2018, 05:24 PM
RogueJSKYep. Q wins. No question.
February 27, 2018, 05:51 PM
Hound Dogquote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Yep. Q wins. No question.
Borg are corporeal beings, limited to our world and our dimension.
Q are transcendent beings, able to do anything they think of. The Q could blink the Borg out of existence with barely a thought.
As for the reason they are, in the majority, white Caucasians: SFX are expensive. Just like how the Klingons in the Original Series were just dark-skinned guys with funny eyebrows and in the TNG era (and beyond), had fancy forehead ridges.
In the 'real' world, they would be composed of countless different species, with different facial structures, body types, etc. There would be Borg versions of the Gorn (big lizzards), Tholians (look like big insects), Zindi (monkeys, insects, fish, insectoids), Tholians, Vulcans, etc. The TV shows have always been limited by their SFX budgets.
Fear God and Dread Nought
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February 28, 2018, 09:35 AM
jhe888I just wish more looked like 7 of 9.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. February 28, 2018, 09:42 AM
Fla. Jimquote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
I just wish more looked like 7 of 9.
Sigh....
There will never be another Seven of Nine.
February 28, 2018, 11:47 AM
apprenticeThey take the role of Nazis in the series. So, there's that.
February 28, 2018, 08:48 PM
RAEIndustriesThere were some they did not assimilate since they brought no value to the collective
There were multi racial Borg, even Tuvok was semi Borg at one time
You must of missed it when you went down to the basement to feed your captive
February 28, 2018, 08:51 PM
RAEIndustries7 of 9 makes me 5 to 7 every time I see her
March 01, 2018, 08:53 AM
Orgussquote:
Originally posted by Fla. Jim:
Sigh....
There will never be another Seven of Nine.
Wh-Why is there a Galaxy-class behind her, though?
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