I've been a Star Trek fan as long as I remember, and I've seen the episodes many times. My wife however, has not. There happened to be an episode playing the other day and it sucked her right in. "This side of Paradise" - it was never one of my favorites, but I watched it with renewed interest and noted that Jill Ireland gave a great performance where you felt the heartache of her loss. But its also the writing, sets, and music - the original music composed has to be some of the best ever for a TV series.
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May 22, 2023, 10:55 AM
lyman
we ditched cable a few months ago and have been watching 'free tv' as in Samsung channels, and Pluto,
pluto TV has one channel that runs TOS or TNG, and another that runs Voyager,
a few commercials, but they are also the updated versions of TOS where they redid the SFx
my wife rolls her eyes, she is a fan but not as much as I am,
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May 22, 2023, 11:58 AM
oddball
I remember watching Star Trek in its original run in the late 60s, I really didn't understand it, I guess I was 7 years old at the time. I was more into Gomer Pyle, I Dream of Jennie and Bonanza. But in later years my brother and I watched it everyday when it was in syndication in the 70s, we have watched each episode many times over.
It has been a long time since I have watched an episode, but the most impressive aspect of the series was the casting, very good chemistry in regards to the principals.
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May 22, 2023, 01:07 PM
goose5
Check out a podcast called Enterprise Incidents. Two fans do deep dives on each individual episode if your willing to get into the weeds. Each episode had a budget of around 175,000 dollars, and its interesting to learn how many anomalies came to be because of budget concerns. For example the transporter was created from a budget concern. External shuttle craft shots were way more expensive. The cloaking device was another special effect cost cutting invention.This message has been edited. Last edited by: goose5,
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May 22, 2023, 01:15 PM
ensigmatic
I'd love to re-watch ST TOS, but, the picture and audio quality are so poor, compared to what we've been watching for so many years, it's difficult to watch.
I wish they'd re-master it, cleaning up the PQ and audio--leaving it in the original 4:3 aspect ratio, of course. Not likely, but, it'd be cool if they did.
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May 22, 2023, 04:38 PM
apprentice
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic: I'd love to re-watch ST TOS, but, the picture and audio quality are so poor, compared to what we've been watching for so many years, it's difficult to watch.
I wish they'd re-master it, cleaning up the PQ and audio--leaving it in the original 4:3 aspect ratio, of course. Not likely, but, it'd be cool if they did.
*edited to say look below, but for those that always wanted more of the original Trek, the following has been out there for a while and is considered essentially cannon:
Having seen it end-to-end I still highly recommend it.This message has been edited. Last edited by: apprentice,
May 22, 2023, 05:40 PM
Pyker
I have the original DVD collection, but FWIW, they've re-issued the whole lot on Blu-Ray. Whether they cleaned it up or if the upscale helps I do not know.
May 22, 2023, 06:25 PM
Loswsmith
So: your lips, my command etc:
"On 31 August 2006, CBS Paramount Television announced that, in celebration of its 40th anniversary, Star Trek: The Original Series would return to broadcast syndication for the first time in sixteen years. Beginning with "Balance of Terror", each of the series' 79 episodes were digitally remastered to 1080p HD video, and DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround audio standards, [10] with all newly (re-)created visual effects and music. The refurbished episodes were converted from the original film to a high-definition format similar to that used on Star Trek: Enterprise. The opening theme was re-recorded in digital stereo with new vocals by Elin Carlson, and William Shatner's opening monologue was remastered from the original elements. Most notably, though, many of the visual effects were recreated using CGI by CBS Digital. The opening credits sequence was revamped, several matte paintings received a CGI face-lift, and spaceship exteriors including the Romulan Bird-of-Prey and the Klingon battle cruiser were recreated using state-of-the-art digital effects. However, for some reason, the credits at the end of the episode were not remastered and digitally enhanced. The new CGI Enterprise was based on the exact measurements, originally taken by Gary Kerr, of the original model, which is on display in the Smithsonian Institution's National Air and Space Museum in Washington, DC."
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May 22, 2023, 06:56 PM
lyman
quote:
Originally posted by Loswsmith: So: your lips, my command etc:
"On 31 August 2006, CBS Paramount Television announced that, in celebration of its 40th anniversary, Star Trek: The Original Series would return to broadcast syndication for the first time in sixteen years. Beginning with "Balance of Terror", each of the series' 79 episodes were digitally remastered to 1080p HD video, and DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 Surround audio standards, [10] with all newly (re-)created visual effects and music. The refurbished episodes were converted from the original film to a high-definition format similar to that used on Star Trek: Enterprise. The opening theme was re-recorded in digital stereo with new vocals by Elin Carlson, and William Shatner's opening monologue was remastered from the original elements. Most notably, though, many of the visual effects were recreated using CGI by CBS Digital. The opening credits sequence was revamped, several matte paintings received a CGI face-lift, and spaceship exteriors including the Romulan Bird-of-Prey and the Klingon battle cruiser were recreated using state-of-the-art digital effects. However, for some reason, the credits at the end of the episode were not remastered and digitally enhanced. The new CGI Enterprise was based on the exact measurements, originally taken by Gary Kerr, of the original model, which is on display in the Smithsonian Institution's National Air and Space Museum in Washington, DC."
I first noticed or heard about the upgrades when it was on Amazonm
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May 23, 2023, 04:34 AM
mttaylor1066
I purchased the Blu Ray remastered and enhanced box set. Very much a bargain, getting 79 episodes and many hours of extras for $82.
The color and clarity is greatly improved... the details on the various Federation uniform insignia are fantastic... but it's not like you can get full HDR detail out of the original film stock, even with upscaling. You can really pick out the stuntman doubles in fight sequences!
The CGI additions are smart...when ships explode or a phaser is fired... it looks similar to what one would expect from 80's technology. Somewhere between the campiness of the '60s effects and today's CGI. Just right, imho.
The audio balance is annoying... the credits and action sequences are more than a few decibels above the in-episode dialog ues. Have to keep the remote handy when the audio suddenly blasts.
They've also edited a few scenes...or so I have read. Some sequences don't seem to be the same as I remember from over-the-air broadcasts. Like the above posters, I've seen every episode many, many times.
If you're a Trekkie... these Blu Rays will be your plomeek soup!
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May 23, 2023, 02:45 PM
furlough
I dimly remember reading something about the audio for the original series. The producers were very aware that the shows would be watched on a tube TV with a small 4-inch or so speaker from across the living room. Therefore the special effects (especially the doors opening and closing) were cranked up to make sure they could be heard. Don't know if they balanced the audio out with the re-masterings but it was interesting to know that the producers knew how challenging a sci-fi show on old-school TVs was going to be.
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May 23, 2023, 03:36 PM
DanH
If you do get the Blu Rays, you also get the original episodes remastered with no CG upgrades. It's a 2 for 1 deal.
May 23, 2023, 05:04 PM
ensigmatic
Apparently both the original and remastered versions are available on Paramount+?
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May 23, 2023, 06:08 PM
patw
I always liked the comradery of the characters in the original. Jim and Spock, of course, always seemed like off-screen to be close friends, as it turns out they were.The mannerisms of the captain were entertaining as well.
May 24, 2023, 08:23 PM
jhe888
My dad loved that show and he was not a TV watcher. I love the show too. It still holds up.
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May 25, 2023, 08:30 AM
Blackmore
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic: Apparently both the original and remastered versions are available on Paramount+?
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May 25, 2023, 09:28 AM
bryan11
The book 'The Making of Star Trek' by Stephen Whitfield and Gene Roddenberry talks much about the people, relationships, and struggles. Reading about that turned out to be much more interesting than expected, so I'd recommend the book if you can find a copy.
May 25, 2023, 10:01 AM
Patrick-SP2022
quote:
Originally posted by bryan11: The book 'The Making of Star Trek' by Stephen Whitfield and Gene Roddenberry talks much about the people, relationships, and struggles. Reading about that turned out to be much more interesting than expected, so I'd recommend the book if you can find a copy.
One of many great scenes from "The Doomsday Machine."
I wish they'd handled the remastering of this one better. The battle scenes with the titular machine just didn't look right.
May 27, 2023, 10:46 PM
Dzozer
quote:
Originally posted by egregore: One of many great scenes from "The Doomsday Machine."
One of the best episodes IMO. William Windom is great! I read on one of the Star Trek websites that there were further stories in the ST books I think, and that there was more than one Doomsday Machine - apparently they were created to fight the Borg.
