I picked up a CZ 1012 late last year and finally got to shoot it for the first time yesterday. This was my first and only time shooting a semiauto. I was disappointed to say the least. This thing kicks pretty damn hard with 7-8 bird shot. I would say my Mossberg 500 with HD slugs felt the same as the CZ with bird shot. After about a dozen rounds of mixed 5-8 bird shot my shoulder is sore. I cant imagine how a duck or turkey round would feel.

Im going to add a limb saver pad and see how that helps.

It's funny, the pump gun I have with a rubber pad, no inertia reduction parts like yours, kicks like a mule but my son has a double barrel in the same caliber, that is not as bad and the butt-stock plate is hard plastic.

We shot 00 buck and some slugs with the pump, with the added rubber butt pad and his sxs without, and I thought I was going to rip off my shoulder with the pump. Weird.

The "inertia" autos do not have the soft recoil of a gas operated shotgun. I looked at a Beretta 1200 and thought it as hard a kicker as a pump.

Yeah, recoil-operated shotguns don't have the same felt recoil mitigation as gas-operated guns.

The recoil on my Beretta 1201FP, with its light aluminum receiver and recoil operated action, is pretty stout with full power loads.

Had a 1201FP years ago. I found recoil to be quite sharp and the stock would slap my cheek hard. Swapped it for a Choate stock with a pistol grip and it was much more pleasant, no more cheek slap either.

Kinda wish I’d kept it.

"HArd Kicking" with 12 gauge Target loads is typically traceable to poor technique or a shotgun that is very light for the caliber. For example a 5-6 lbs. Field gun designed to be very light will have more recoil than an 8 lbs. target gun.

In this particular instance we have a 6.5 lbs. gun that is probably shooting 1 1/8 ounce Target shells. Suggestion One is a Limbsaver recoil pad, they really do help reduce the felt recoil. Suggestion Two is to shoot 1 ounce Target loads. That will also help with the felt recoil. BTW, I practice with 1/2 ounce 410 target loads so don't even think about claiming there isn't enough lead in a full ounce of shot.

BTW the 410 has wonderful recoil and it is the least expensive caliber to reload. Two reasons why I started shooting the 410 but it's also just a delightful caliber to shoot.

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Originally posted by Badhammer:
Had a 1201FP years ago. I found recoil to be quite sharp and the stock would slap my cheek hard. Swapped it for a Choate stock with a pistol grip and it was much more pleasant, no more cheek slap either.

Yep. Mine now lives in a Mesa Tactical Urbino stock. The built-in Limbsaver pad helps with felt recoil.

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Originally posted by gpbst3:
This thing kicks pretty damn hard with 7-8 bird shot. I would say my Mossberg 500 with HD slugs felt the same as the CZ with bird shot.

Review what Scooter 123 stated above. The size of the pellets/slugs doesn't mean much for recoil -- it's the total lead weight and the muzzle velocity. 1-1/8 and 1-1/4 ounce shot at 1250 to 1350 fps just pounds your shoulder. 7/8 to 1 ounce loads at 1150-1200 fps MV aren't so bad.

A good buttpad like a limbsaver helps.

Good technique helps. If the gun is loose in your shoulder pocket, the recoil will feel worse.

If you're experiencing cheek slap from the buttstock, this isn't fun. It might be caused by technique or gun fit.