I ordered the CZ from PSA

Yay! Range report is next.

I’ve got a 3-9 firedot sitting on the bench but I think a 2-7 outta be more fitting. I think I got a vortex 2-7 NIB somewhere. Probably heavier than I’d like but it’ll work until I can find a Leuopold 2-7 duplex.

If I can ever get time off I’ve got 4 new guns and a P365 I just upgraded that I’d like to try out.

Work sucks

Back when I bought my Ruger All-Weather 77-22, they were still in production, the CZ models were not yet readily available.
Polymer boat paddle stock, all stainless steel, no sights.

Yes, the 2-7 Leupold rimfire variable is what I recommend. That's what is on my 77-22.
The factory parallax setting for the rimfire scopes is more suited for .22LR ammo than a centerfire scope.
50 yards vs 100 yards if I recall correctly.

I don't shoot mine regularly now, but once moved into the cabin, it likely will live behind the front door.
For lead injection needs in a considerably more rural venue.

Ruger’s website is showing the 77/22 currently only available in .22 Hornet. Don’t know what’s going on at Ruger now with so many models being discontinued.

I got really lucky a few years back and Cabela’s had one on the used rack for $189. Obviously someone made a mistake in the pricing. I grabbed it as quick as I could and it also came with the original box. Turns out it was a first year production of the 77/22 and has iron sights. I’ve mounted a Sightron 2-7x rimfire scope in Warne quick detach rings on it. My first range trip I experiences several misfires with it, disassemble the bolt and cleaned all the original crusty assembly grease out of it and it has been 100% reliable ever since.

You might want to check out Springfield Armory’s Waypoint 2020 Rimfire. Bolt action available in various grades of walnut and uses 10/22 compatible magazines.

https://www.springfield-armory...2020-rimfire-rifles/

The Volquartsen Summit is an impressive straight pull rifle in .22 Long Rifle, .22 WMR, .17 Mach2 or .17 HMR. Outside the price range, but lots of custom options.

Does anyone have a Bergara or Tikka rimfire?

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:
77/22 currently only available in .22 Hornet.

I used to have a 77/22 in .22 Hornet, and another in .22WMR.

Wish I hadn't had to part with those....

I have a Tikka T1x Ace Target in 22LR that I’m very happy with. There are many T1x models, but the Ace Target uses a chassis and with everything I’ve done to mine it probably weighs three (or more!) times as much as the CZ the OP ordered.

I believe we have some Bergara owners here as well.

Can't believe Plinkster did it under 20 rounds (or can I) with a 457. The right ammo helps. I guess the challenge is on for 325 yards now.

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Originally posted by SigSentry:
Can't believe Plinkster did it under 20 rounds (or can I) with a 457.

This is the first time I've seen one of his videos. He's a decent shooter -- has solid fundamentals.

The vast majority of 22lr rifle owners shoot targets at 25-50 yards. A few will go out to 100 yards, when they're up for longer shots. Beyond 100 yards is rarely even considered. 22plinkster correctly notes that things are much different at 300 yards.

With a decent rifle & ammo, a good shooter, and almost no wind it's pretty just a matter of time & luck to split the card. Based on his 2-ish MOA wind hold, he shot in crosswinds of no more than 1.5 MPH. I shoot in such calm conditions about once a year, if that. Especially multiple strings with similar conditions. I generally get no-wind conditions for only a shot or two, just after a storm passes by, and just before the next one arrives, and then I see often see a directional switch of 5-10-15 MPH. Sometimes more. In my world with a 22, I'm almost certainly holding off-plate of a silhouette target to compensate for wind pushing the POI to the dot near the center of the plate.

Again, he's a decent shooter. There were a few impacts with a lot of vertical dispersion. This could have been due to adjusting his elevation dope, ammo MV variation, or inconsistency with rear bag use. But his horizontal dispersion is decent -- which is greatly helped by minimal and consistent crosswinds.

Understand that he's aiming at a 1" wide paster to hit a card that's maybe .01" wide. It's a luck shot. He only hit the dot twice -- one glancing shot and one direct hit. If his test were truly repeatable, he would have peppered the paster many times. Next time out he might split the card within 5 shots. Or 50 shots. Or maybe not even with 100 shots. It makes for good U-Boob video, but it doesn't represent what generally occurs in the field for those who shoot 22lr at such distances.

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You might want to check out Springfield Armory’s Waypoint 2020 Rimfire. Bolt action available in various grades of walnut and uses 10/22 compatible magazines.

I have one in "Grade AA" walnut, with a 3-9x Sightron on top. They use the language "cross-compatible with", not "interchange(able) with." A Ruger BX-10 (standard flush-fit) goes into the well and feeds, but has to be pried out. A BX-15 I tried wouldn't go into the well at all. Springfield-marked ones are fine. Very pleased with it overall, helped by getting it when it was on sale.

Sightron scopes are worth a look if you are on a budget. Mine have a sharper and clearer image than a couple others I have/had in the same price range. Made in the Philippines or Taiwan, but at least not China.

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Originally posted by fritz:
It's a luck shot.

That’s what anyone who is impressed by such feats should understand about guns and shooting.

A $5000 rifle and $35 per box of 22 Long Rifle ammunition will reduce the shot-to-shot dispersion as compared with a rifle that costs $250 and ammo that goes for 5¢ a round. That will increase the chance of such a hit, but it’s still ruled by chance. No 22LR rifle and ammunition—and especially the ammunition—is capable of enough precision to make the feat repeatable on demand or even by prayers and pleading. The best that can be done is to put enough bullets in the general vicinity until one by luck hits the intended target.

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Originally posted by OttoSig:
I’ve got a 3-9 firedot sitting on the bench but I think a 2-7 outta be more fitting. I think I got a vortex 2-7 NIB somewhere. Probably heavier than I’d like but it’ll work until I can find a Leuopold 2-7 duplex.

I like the size of the Leupold 2-7 Rimfire on .22 rifles. I originally put a 3-9 version on which I thought was a little bulky for a .22 that I sometimes carried around. I still have both scopes with the 3-9 on the 457 and the 2-7 gloss finish scope on the polished finish 452.

Another vote for the CZ 457. I currently have a 457 Scout in a Lux stock and she sure is pretty. You’ll be happy with the Varmint.

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Originally posted by Fire Away:
Does anyone have a Bergara or Tikka rimfire?

I have 2 T1x's, one in 22LR and the other in 17HMR. The 17 is about as accurate at 100yds as the 22 is at 50. I was pretty surprised about that. With good ammo both will shoot 1/2- 3/4" groups. The Stocks are light and plasticky but not terrible. The neat thing about them is that they will fit into any aftermarket stock for a T3x, and there's a bunch of them out there. Replace the trigger spring for under $10 and they have a much nicer Trigger pull.

Neither is quite as accurate as my CZ457 Varmint MTR Match but the 2 of them cost about the same as the one CZ.

I'd recommend the Tikka's for general hunting, Varmint and plinking and the CZ if you were considering more serious Match work.

I don't fully get that price comment. for a given type of model the 1x and the CZ are within a few dollars of the same price across almost the full range. I think the CZ delivers a bit more for a given price point, has more models and the aftermarket is much broader, but there isn't a serious price gap.

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
I don't fully get that price comment. for a given type of model the 1x and the CZ are within a few dollars of the same price across almost the full range. I think the CZ delivers a bit more for a given price point, has more models and the aftermarket is much broader, but there isn't a serious price gap.

The two T1x's I bought at the time were around or under $500. They were the original base models. Right now they are $584 at Eurooptic.
My CZ 457 MTR retails for $999. IIRC I paid $950 Plus tax at Schools.

Where it gets confusing is that now both companies make far more expensive models with match level stocks etc. There's a CZ that Retails for $2400 and the T1x Ace retails for $1650 (both get discounted $300 or so).

I guess in my original post I could have been more specific about the exact models. When I bought the T1x's they didn't have all the more expensive versions and at the time the 457 MTR Target was one of the more expensive CZ's. Now you can spend more than $1000 just for a Match Chassis!

They are both really nice rifles but my end conclusion is still the same. I think the upper end CZ's are better and more supported match rifles and the Tikka's are better as hunting, plinking and non-competition target shooting. CZ also makes hunting rifles more directly comparable to the T1x at similar prices.

Eurooptic carry's them both and is a good place to check them out and compare. Another good idea is to go to a busy range and shoot both. 22 is inexpensive enough that you may get an offer to shoot someone's rifle. If not you can rent them at a lot of ranges. I live near the RifleGear Range in The Colony, TX, bring the Ammo and you are welcome to shoot all three of mine at their indoor range, I can meet you there.

They are both great choices, pick the one that fits you the best and enjoy the heck out of it!...........DJ

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Originally posted by Fire Away:
Does anyone have a Bergara or Tikka rimfire?

I had a Bergara BMR in 22LR and it was a great shooting rifle, but it wasn't anymore so than my CZ's and not quite on the level of my Anschutz rifles. I already had far more 22's than I needed so I sold it. The Tikkas are great rifles as well.

CZ or Tikka or Bergara.

I have an older CZ .17 HMR Varmit, I think it’s a 455. Wood stock, heavy barrel. Can swap it to a .22LR with a barrel and mag change.

I also have a Bergara B14R in .22lr with a carbon fiber wrapped barrel. This model is a Remington 700 size gun using Bergara AICS sized mags to mimic a center fire gun.

Both shoot well and are fun. I’ve made repeated hits on an A/C sized target at 400yrds with the Bergara.