I'm over here pondering the universe of AR triggers. So many! Help me sort them out, a bit.
What's your favorite all-around AR trigger? Favorite "fighting AR" trigger? Favorite precision trigger? Favorite "best buy/budget" trigger?
Let's leave budget out of everything but the "best buy/budget" category.
Bruce
"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams
“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli
The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken
February 18, 2021, 03:18 PM
jjkroll32
Tough call. My overall favorite is the KAC 2 stage (silver trigger bow) that is in my Circa 2015 SR15E3 Keymod 16"ers. Very clean 2 stage, and more a "duty" level of heft in the pull. Probably 4.5-5lbs total. Not scary light like I've felt Geissele SSA-E to be.
More recent SR-15 IWS lowers that I've picked up have an updated version (black trigger bow) are very similar though probably closer to a 4lb total pull and feel very similar to current Geissele SSA.
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February 18, 2021, 04:16 PM
hrcjon
I'm a geissle fan. I'm not much into trigger for this, trigger for that on an AR as I consider all of my AR's pretty much "fighting AR's". I have other stuff for precision long range work etc. I've tried all of the geissle options and the one I happen to like the best overall in an AR is the SSP. I have also used the Wilson Combat extensively in my PCC guns and its quite nice as well and I would have no problems recommending it. For budget stuff I have installed the alg act and its pretty nice for its price range. Things I have tried what didn't agree with me on an AR are the Timney and the RRA match (generally given high marks in price/performance, but I didn't like it). There are so many as you say.
“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
February 18, 2021, 04:26 PM
SR025
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Originally posted by jjkroll32: My overall favorite is the KAC 2 stage (silver trigger bow)
This right here
February 18, 2021, 06:36 PM
92fstech
I've tried the Geissles and really liked them, but couldn't stomach the cost. My go-to is the Larue MBT2. IMO it's a better value for the money...fantastic quality, not too light, not too heavy, clean break, and much less expensive. If money is no object, though, I'd go with the Geissle.
February 18, 2021, 08:03 PM
jdshank
LaRue, Own 3,great trigger for the money!
February 18, 2021, 08:08 PM
Delta-3
Anything Geiselle but especially the SD-C.
Rom 13:4 If you do evil, be afraid. For he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.
February 18, 2021, 08:15 PM
Brother
I like a mil spec with a strong reset nowadays. Geiselle SD3G is fun though!
February 18, 2021, 09:04 PM
Lefty Sig
Geissele SSA-E for most things.
February 18, 2021, 09:09 PM
SIGfourme
Geissele Super Dynamic 3 gun trigger. Unbelievable fast reset, clean break. The closest trigger that approximates “auto”. ALG Act trigger for the budget. ALG stands for Amy Lynn Geissele. Larue MBT (when they are on sale)is also a great trigger.
February 19, 2021, 09:26 AM
old rugged cross
I want to try an ALG. But I am cheap. The enhanced PSA trigger I have on one their lowers is nice. Again, a budget item and know they do not compete with those mentioned. But still a nice upgrade for the $. Also look at Tom's Tactical.
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February 19, 2021, 10:09 AM
RNshooter
The ALG QMS is my default "all around" and "fighting" trigger. The ACT is slightly smoother and the 2nd set of springs is a great value. The purple (reduced) spring makes it the equal of many boutique triggers I have tried. The Geissele National Match is just supernatural, for precision rifles. I have only dry fired it but it was practically a religious experience. I have a SSA on the way (bought in the Classifieds here) that I am looking forward to trying on my training rifle.
Thanks for all the replies.
BruceThis message has been edited. Last edited by: RNshooter,
"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams
“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli
The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken
February 19, 2021, 10:35 AM
fritz
I have one AR10 & AR15 trigger -- Wilson Combat single stage TTU. It works for all my rifles and purposes. One will be hard pressed to find a trigger that is so crisp in its break, and one with such a short and positive reset.
February 19, 2021, 11:06 AM
P220 Smudge
Not a whole lot of experience with different triggers, but I’ll agree with RNshooter, the ALG ACT is a very good “all around” trigger for not a lot of coin. It’s got a traditional feel to it, but much smoother with a crisp break.
Now that I think about it, I’m not sure if I have the ACT or the QMS. Either way, I’m pleased with it.
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February 19, 2021, 11:08 AM
Sig209
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Originally posted by P220 Smudge: Not a whole lot of experience with different triggers, but I’ll agree with RNshooter, the ALG ACT is a very good “all around” trigger for not a lot of coin. It’s got a traditional feel to it, but much smoother with a crisp break.
+1.
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February 19, 2021, 11:29 AM
RogueJSK
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Originally posted by RNshooter: The ALG is my default "all around" and "fighting" trigger.
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Originally posted by P220 Smudge: the ALG ACT is a very good “all around” trigger for not a lot of coin.
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Originally posted by SIGfourme: ALG Act trigger for the budget.
Agreed. That's what I have in my defensive rifles, and I think it ticks all three of the "fighting", "all around", and "budget" boxes nicely. Milspec-style, but a much smoother pull, and very reasonably priced, especially on sale.
If I were building something specifically for competition, I might go lighter/fancier.
February 19, 2021, 11:41 AM
P250UA5
My sole AR has a standard PSA LPK trigger. Pretty happy with it, enough that I've never really considered replacing/upgrading it.
From the half dozen or so other ARs I've been behind, I haven't had any that led me to want to change either.
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February 19, 2021, 12:01 PM
houndawg
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Originally posted by 92fstech: I've tried the Geissles and really liked them, but couldn't stomach the cost. My go-to is the Larue MBT2. IMO it's a better value for the money...fantastic quality, not too light, not too heavy, clean break, and much less expensive. If money is no object, though, I'd go with the Geissle.
I bought the MBT-2S a while back when they had a big, "Let's see how many we can sell," sale. Nice trigger, but the face is way too flat. It needs to be rounded more on the sides.
February 19, 2021, 01:36 PM
Scooter123
I have Timney 3 lb. single stage triggers in all 3 of my AR's. Some may think that is too light but many years of being conditioned to only go inside the trigger guard when ready to fire works for me. Fact is if I see someone holding a firearm with their finger inside the trigger guard that someone is a person I avoid. I don't give a damn if that trigger is a two stage with a 12 lbs. break, get your damned bugger hook off that trigger unless you are on target and actually ready to fire.
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February 19, 2021, 02:11 PM
Underdog
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Originally posted by fritz: I have one AR10 & AR15 trigger -- Wilson Combat single stage TTU. It works for all my rifles and purposes. One will be hard pressed to find a trigger that is so crisp in its break, and one with such a short and positive reset.
That's what is in my ARs as well. Also gives me the excuse to buy their logo AR grip to look a little cool. LOL