Hello to all. A question. I was talking to a gunsmith out of state to have a diopter rear sight put on a Swedish Mauser. This rifle was built in the early 1900’s so it isn’t an antique per the ATF. He is not an FFL. I am not an FFL. He said it was good to go for me to ship directly to him and for him to ship it directly back to me. He said all good to go since it is “repairs”. I don’t want trouble and I don’t want him to have troubles either.

Is this good to go?

Thanks in advance.

Sounds shady as hell to me.
As far as I know.... direct shipments like that are ONLY good when sending it back to the manufacturer for warranty work.

I believe he is mistaken.

I thought a gunsmith had engaging in the activity for a profit requires an FFL?

That’s what I was told so I went and got my FFL. Being able to have buy guns and have guns directly shipped to be was an added benefit.

Per ATF website:

Does a gunsmith need to enter every firearm received for adjustment or repair into an acquisition and disposition (A&D) record?
If a firearm is brought in for repairs and the owner waits while it is being repaired, or if the gunsmith is able to return the firearm to the owner during the same business day, it is not necessary to list the firearm in the A&D record as an “acquisition.”

If the gunsmith has possession of the firearm from one business day to another or longer, the firearm must be recorded as an “acquisition” and a “disposition” in the A&D record.

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Originally posted by arfmel:
I believe he is mistaken.

This is the nice way to say it.

I believe he is mistaken.
Some states will allow you to ship person to person but never across state lines.
Google is your friend

Ok. Thanks. I thought so. He is a reputable gunsmith but, doesn’t know some of the FFL rules.

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Originally posted by 357fuzz:
He is a reputable gunsmith...

I suppose it's a matter of terms. The fact that he doesn't have an FFL would indicate otherwise.
He may be skilled, but he's certainly not doing it right.

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Originally posted by cas:

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Originally posted by 357fuzz:
He is a reputable gunsmith...

I suppose it's a matter of terms. The fact that he doesn't have an FFL would indicate otherwise.
He may be skilled, but he's certainly not doing it right.

That is exactly what I meant. Kind of foolish on his part.

Not good to go, check out 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(11) and (21) as well as 27 CFR 478.11.

A modification performed by somebody conducting such activities as a business is considered to be a gunsmith, which is one of the categories of persons within the definition of a dealer, which requires a type 01 FFL.