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"strange fascination that some people have for the AK"
October 30, 2023, 12:02 PM
pace40"strange fascination that some people have for the AK"
Guilty..........
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October 30, 2023, 01:07 PM
bigpond73Me too, although I don't have near the amount you do. I just have a de-banned SA93, and a Saiga 12.
Nice collection you have there.
Mike
You can run, but you cannot hide.
If you won't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them.
October 30, 2023, 08:55 PM
arcwelderI only have two AK's left. One is better than the other.

Arc.
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October 30, 2023, 08:59 PM
RogueJSKHehe.
Yeah, my favorite AK is also a VZ.

October 30, 2023, 09:57 PM
pace40quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder:
I only have two AK's left. One is better than the other.
Isn't it somewhat sacrilegious calling that an AK?

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October 31, 2023, 01:37 AM
arcwelderquote:
Originally posted by pace40:
Isn't it somewhat sacrilegious calling that an AK?
I suppose that depends on which one you care to insult. Not to hijack the mans thread, but without the dumb mags, I'm confident no one would care about the AK but fetishists.
Shot side by side, I don't know how you reason the AK is better. I'd shot a Hakim long before I found one of these rifles which is like someone left an AK in their pocket and put it through the dryer.
Arc.
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"Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash
"I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman
Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM
"You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP
October 31, 2023, 05:04 AM
92fstechI've shot AKs but never really fell in love with that platform. That said, I wish I'd picked up a VZ when they were easier and cheaper to come by. That's a beautiful example that you have there, Arc.
October 31, 2023, 09:20 AM
IndianaBoyI've never personally liked the AK that much but I will probably still buy one someday just because they are such an iconic gun.
They do indeed have a cool factor.

October 31, 2023, 09:24 AM
fischtown7Did they make an AK with Beaver Barf stocks like on the the VZ? Mine is a Side folder, so glad I grabbed it when I did.
October 31, 2023, 10:56 AM
David WI like em too! Been meaning to SBR this one for awhile.
David W.
Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud. -Sophocles October 31, 2023, 11:34 AM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by fischtown7:
Did they make an AK with Beaver Barf stocks like on the the VZ?
Kinda. The VZ58's "beaver barf" furniture is made from phenolic resin and wood chips. Old school Bakelite furniture used on some AKs was made from phenolic resin and wood dust. So they use similar materials, but the "beaver barf" uses significantly larger wood filler particles than Bakelite, and as a result has a much rougher plywood-ish look.
October 31, 2023, 11:38 AM
fischtown7neat, learned something new. I do really like the Beaver Barf.
October 31, 2023, 02:41 PM
ElToroJust bought a zastava m70 over the summer and a case of 7.62. I’m tiptoeing into the AK world. So much to learn with all the countries that made their own variation etc.
November 01, 2023, 06:42 AM
sourdough44I’ll admit I’m not big into AKs. I’ll start with stocks to short & usually terrible triggers. Yeah, I’m sure everything can be improved.
My son is more into them, so I’ve shot a handful.
That all said, I really like the VZ-58 in some flavor. It’s better in most ways. I think it would take effort to get it to jam, cycles everything.
November 01, 2023, 10:42 AM
Expert308I get the appeal, I think. Reputation for reliability, cheap ammo (is it still?), cold-war-cool looks. But I never felt the desire for one. A friend of mine built one and I shot it. Not impressed. The stock was so short that I had to pull my head back to keep the receiver from smashing my nose. And yeah, the trigger ...
November 01, 2023, 11:05 AM
pace40quote:
Originally posted by Expert308:
The stock was so short that I had to pull my head back to keep the receiver from smashing my nose. And yeah, the trigger ...
They've come a long way...
Keep them classic.....
Or trick them out as much as you want...
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November 01, 2023, 11:23 AM
Expert308quote:
Originally posted by pace40:
quote:
Originally posted by Expert308:
The stock was so short that I had to pull my head back to keep the receiver from smashing my nose. And yeah, the trigger ...
They've come a long way...
Cool. Yeah I guess it had to be just a matter of time. I have an ALG trigger in my range/HD/SHTF AR, they're great. The other reason I'm not gonna dive into the AK world - no reflection at all on the guns - is I just really do NOT need to be stocking yet another flavor of ammo, no matter how cheap it is.

November 01, 2023, 04:12 PM
RogueJSKYou don't even have to get that fancy to have an AK with a longer LOP and better trigger. Even before all the cool guy aftermarket options came to market in the past decade or so, you could get a replacement "NATO length" fixed buttstock and a Tapco G2 trigger, which easily addressed both of those on the cheap.
November 01, 2023, 10:47 PM
arcwelderI have a warm spot in my heart for the FAL, and I feel like AK guys should get comfortable there.
Arc.
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"Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash
"I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman
Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM
"You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP
November 02, 2023, 05:46 AM
pace40quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
"NATO length" fixed buttstock and a Tapco G2 trigger
I actually prefer the Warsaw stocks. Short arms I guess. I do miss the availability of the G2's though. Great triggers and I do prefer the shape of a well-tuned G2 over the ALG.
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