I'm looking to mount a 30mm tube scope to an AR and became dizzy after googling/researching for a couple hours yesterday. The scope will likely stay on this rifle so, unless there's a good reason I should, quick attach feature isn't necessary. One question I have is what height over the receiver or rail would you recommend, or is height subjective? There are no sights on this rifle to look over. 1.55" seems to be pretty common. I prefer to stay around $300 (street price) or under, but can go a little higher if needed. TIA

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Great googly moogly! I have not shopped these in awhile but prices have gone through the roof!!!
I have LaRue but paid nowhere near $400!!!!!

https://www.larue.com/products/lt204/

I know, it sure seems like there's a hell of a lot more than twice the work to make an $800 scope as there is to make a $400 mount.

Anyway your Larue is QD so hopefully a fixed mount will be le$$.

Aero or DNZ

Didn't see anything at DNZ site. Aero has some and are affordable. What about Leupold? https://www.leupold.com/mark-ar-30mm-matte

My post from a couple of weeks ago in another thread.....

I have Nightforce ($260), JP ($300), GG&G ($200), Warne ($150), and LaRue one-piece mounts on AR10s and AR15s. They all work, but I like the NF mounts the best. My rifles have survived rough handling in multi-gun matches, travel via car & plane, being dropped off the back of UTVs & pickups while bouncing across the pastures. They all hold zeros.

I know competitors who have Seekins ($300), Badger ($300), Leupold ($250), Vortex ($150), and Burris ($150) mounts. All of these mounts work for the competitors. They hold zero, the owners don't baby their rifles, the rifles get bumped in competition, the rifles get jostled around when travelling to matches.

Thanks fritz, would this one be correct for me?
One question is the 20 MOA? I haven't noticed this on other scopes I've looked at. https://www.eurooptic.com/nigh...0-moa-30mm-a221.aspx

Leupold would be good also.

I have personally used Larue, ADM and Warne.

Warne is great.

https://warnescopemounts.com/x...0mm-msr-mount-black/

I rarely to never use the QD functionality of my ADM and Larue mounts, but in some instances it is handy. Far from a necessity.

20 MOA is not necessary unless you are shooting long distance, and are running out of scope travel to be able to dial proper elevation. Scope and ammo dependent, it is unlikely you will need it unless you plan to shoot beyond 6-700 yards.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:
Great googly moogly! I have not shopped these in awhile but prices have gone through the roof!!!
I have LaRue but paid nowhere near $400!!!!!

https://www.larue.com/products/lt204/

Yeah they had a massive price hike recently. Some of their stuff, like Stealth Barrels and Ultimate Uppers went from a screaming deal to priced out of the market, overnight.

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Originally posted by IndianaBoy:

Warne is great.

https://warnescopemounts.com/x...0mm-msr-mount-black/


20 MOA is not necessary unless you are shooting long distance, and are running out of scope travel to be able to dial proper elevation. Scope and ammo dependent, it is unlikely you will need it unless you plan to shoot beyond 6-700 yards.

Thanks for explaining, I don't anticipate shooting further than 200 yards. That Warn MSR mount looks good, as does the Leopold for that matter.

I purchased that Warne mount & it's a great mount for the money. Recommended by Para & other members. Hard to beat with their 20% off discount until the new year.

No loctite or anything similar needed on the threads according to the instructions.

The standard Warn and Leupold are about 1.4" high which is a bit lower than many others which are 1.55-1.59. Warn has a 1/2" taller version at 1.9".
Is 1.4" height about right?

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Originally posted by Black92LX:
Great googly moogly! I have not shopped these in awhile but prices have gone through the roof!!!
I have LaRue but paid nowhere near $400!!!!!

Recently LaRue raised prices on everything across the board, some things almost double, some things double and more.

Also going to say I've seen enough recommendations for Warne in other places that it's what I have planned for my next scope.

I have a long face, neck and such.
1.4 and 1.5" tall mounts do not work well for me.
It's like trying to look under a door.
1.6" is about as low as I like.
1.9" is perfect, much more consistent cheek weld without fidgeting around in all positions.

Thanks powermad, I was wondering about that. I guess 1.5" must work well, or well enough, for most people since that's mostly what I see offered. Unfortunately I have no reference but worse come to worse if the Warn standard feels too low I should be able to exchange or sell it then order a Super High. Too bad they don't offer an in between. Regardless, the $159 price is very fair (compared to the $300 offerings) especially now at 20% off.

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Originally posted by ridewv:
Thanks fritz, would this one be correct for me?
One question is the 20 MOA?

I believe that's the Nightforce mount that I have on a number of rifles.
Warne mounts may be among the best for their price point.

A canted mount does make it easier to shoot at extended distances, while using a scope with limited vertical tracking capabilities. Most modern scopes have more generous vertical adjustment, meaning that it's now less common to run out of vertical travel with the elevation turret.

Understand that an AR15 is not really a long-distance rifle. At elevations near sea level, with a shorter barrel, in cooler weather, with a bullet that doesn't fly efficiently (i.e. low ballistic coefficient) -- 500 yards may be the point where the bullet goes trans-sonic and becomes unstable. At higher altitudes, longer barrel, warm temps, and a good bullet -- 800 yards is doable with an AR15. In the latter case, a fair amount of elevation will be dialed into the scope. Nevertheless, I believe all my scopes can handle this required turret elevation dialing with a flat (i.e. 0 MOA) scope mount.

If you're only shooting out to 200 yards, it doesn't matter if you have a flat, or 10 MOA, or 20 MOA base. Your turrets will have enough adjustment capabilities.

I use 20 MOA bases because I do regularly shoot my AR15s at 300-600 yards. A canted base keeps the reticle closer to the center of the optic over the course of the target range, which slightly improves optical quality.

To wit, zeroing my scopes to 100 yards often eats up 6-7 MOA of vertical travel. If I start with a 20 MOA base, I'm zeroed with the reticle 13 MOA above glass center. With a FGMM 69 load in my 16" barrel AR, I need 12 MOA of elevation adjustment to get to 500 yards. Thus, I'm looking through the clearest part of the glass at 500 yards.

This is more as an FYI, should you decide to dabble with longer target distances. Again, with 200 yard max, you're fine with a flat base. You'll do fine with the Warne mount.

Very helpful I appreciate you taking the time to explain this, fritz.

I need to get ordering because the brown truck just showed up!








I ordered this from Europtics yesterday morning (Wednesday) and it's here the next morning! Awesome service Euro!

Congrats ridewv, will be waiting for your initial take on the credo. Been contemplating something similar.
Have an really good offer on the 1-8 AccuPoint LPV but it is a pig.

Let us know what you think of your 1-6.