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Tell me about the UBR. I saw one at the range and played with it. Didn’t shoot it.

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Originally posted by smithnsig:
Tell me about the UBR.

Heavy. Can help balance a front heavy rifle with a can, but still heavy.

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Originally posted by dwd1985:
Rock solid. All the benefits of an adjustable stock but with consistent cheek weld. It is heavy, but the Gen 2 is lighter than the first version and can be made lighter by removing the storage doors.

Which do you like better, the Gen 1 or Gen 2 UBR?

Where did you find a brand new Colt 6920 factory FDE cerakote for $700? What is the model number for the one you bought?

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Originally posted by dwd1985:

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Originally posted by smithnsig:
Tell me about the UBR. I saw one at the range and played with it. Didn’t shoot it.

Rock solid. All the benefits of an adjustable stock but with consistent cheek weld. It is heavy, but the Gen 2 is lighter than the first version and can be made lighter by removing the storage doors.

I'd think that if you're worried about the weight of 2 plastic storage doors on a 10-11 pound gun, you've got bigger problems!
I've got 3 ... Maybe 4 I really like them. As noted, they are as solid as a solid stock, with the benefit of the collapsible.

That is a handsome gun! Well done. Makes me want to do an FDE......

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Originally posted by deepocean:
Which do you like better, the Gen 1 or Gen 2 UBR?

John Hollinger of White Oak Arms has a good discussion of the differences between the two stocks here.

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Originally posted by kimberkid:
I'd think that if you're worried about the weight of 2 plastic storage doors on a 10-11 pound gun, you've got bigger problems!
I've got 3 ... Maybe 4 I really like them. As noted, they are as solid as a solid stock, with the benefit of the collapsible.

I think too often shooters fret over rifle weight. Few people carry rifles for hours and hours, day after day. Fewer still hump them up and down mountains, with additional loads on their backs.

In reality, few people ever shoot a rifle from position other than bench or prone. Rarely do we discuss (via websites or face-to-face) techniques for shooting unsupported prone, sitting, kneeling, or standing. Very few people compete in shooting sports that require unsupported positions.

So if this is true, the vast majority of shooters support the weight of their rifle in two instances -- transporting it between safe and car, and transporting it between car and shooting line.

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I have a UBR on one AR-15. Decent stock, but IMO not perfect. It's definitely solid. It helps balance the weight of rifle -- an 18" medium-contour barrel, solid scope, and suppressor. And yes, I do carry this rifle in competition, in matches that require miles of walking/jogging over the course of a day.

The UBR's cheek rest is pretty good, however it's in a relatively forward position in order to allow the buttstock to collapse forward. This means that a nose-to-charging handle position is required (for me) to get my full cheek on the cheek rest. My preferred position on an AR is with my head a little further back, which results in the back part of my cheek being off the rear end of the cheek piece. Somewhat minor gripe, but it means my head position is slightly different with this AR than with my others.

I would like the bottom rear part of the UBR to be a little longer, so more of the buttstock rests on my rear bag. I find that I shoot more accurately with a larger portion of the buttstock touching a bag -- like in Magpull's PRS stock.

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Originally posted by fritz:
... the vast majority of shooters support the weight of their rifle in two instances -- transporting it between safe and car, and transporting it between car and shooting line.

Yeah but sometimes we have to park really far away

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Originally posted by italia:

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Originally posted by fritz:
... the vast majority of shooters support the weight of their rifle in two instances -- transporting it between safe and car, and transporting it between car and shooting line.

Yeah but sometimes we have to park really far away

1. Radio Flyer's Little Red Wagon
2. Hello Kitty sticker on the front
3. Dora the Explorer sticker on the back
4. Yer good to go

Good lookin rifle!

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Originally posted by fritz:

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Originally posted by italia:

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Originally posted by fritz:
... the vast majority of shooters support the weight of their rifle in two instances -- transporting it between safe and car, and transporting it between car and shooting line.

Yeah but sometimes we have to park really far away

1. Radio Flyer's Little Red Wagon
2. Hello Kitty sticker on the front
3. Dora the Explorer sticker on the back
4. Yer good to go

You forgot the Punisher logo on the hubcaps

Good looking rifle!

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Originally posted by fritz:
In reality, few people ever shoot a rifle from position other than bench or prone. Rarely do we discuss (via websites or face-to-face) techniques for shooting unsupported prone, sitting, kneeling, or standing. Very few people compete in shooting sports that require unsupported positions.

So if this is true, the vast majority of shooters support the weight of their rifle in two instances -- transporting it between safe and car, and transporting it between car and shooting line.

I think you're absolutely spot-on people rave over some new GEN 2 of anything is "SO MUCH LIGHTER" ... and when you dig down, its like 5oz lighter ... in my opinion, WHO CARES! That's not even 1/2 a pound ... a loaded magazine weighs more than that and as you pointed out, they aren't carrying that rifle all day. They run their course and sit down.

You are also right in that we never discuss techniques for shooting unsupported prone, sitting, kneeling, or standing, so here's my little contribution ...
When I first got into shooting seriously (group size and such as opposed to just pointing and being satisfied with hitting what ever I was shooting at). I got into Service Rifle match shooting. I read a couple books on the basic's and after a couple matches and got to know other shooters they would give me tips and I practiced at the range when I could ... I took up reloading because I could afford to shoot more. Also when the seasons changed and it got dark earlier I'd practice with an air rifle in the basement (because the projectile is slower, its much less forgiving than a rifle).
Lastly, ne thing I learned right away is muscle gets tired and wobbly; for support bone on bone is more reliable or solid in sitting/kneeling or off-hand/standing.

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Originally posted by kimberkid:

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Originally posted by fritz:
In reality, few people ever shoot a rifle from position other than bench or prone. Rarely do we discuss (via websites or face-to-face) techniques for shooting unsupported prone, sitting, kneeling, or standing. Very few people compete in shooting sports that require unsupported positions.

So if this is true, the vast majority of shooters support the weight of their rifle in two instances -- transporting it between safe and car, and transporting it between car and shooting line.

I think you're absolutely spot-on people rave over some new GEN 2 of anything is "SO MUCH LIGHTER" ... and when you dig down, its like 5oz lighter ... in my opinion, WHO CARES! That's not even 1/2 a pound ... a loaded magazine weighs more than that and as you pointed out, they aren't carrying that rifle all day. They run their course and sit down.

You are also right in that we never discuss techniques for shooting unsupported prone, sitting, kneeling, or standing, so here's my little contribution ...
When I first got into shooting seriously (group size and such as opposed to just pointing and being satisfied with hitting what ever I was shooting at). I got into Service Rifle match shooting. I read a couple books on the basic's and after a couple matches and got to know other shooters they would give me tips and I practiced at the range when I could ... I took up reloading because I could afford to shoot more. Also when the seasons changed and it got dark earlier I'd practice with an air rifle in the basement (because the projectile is slower, its much less forgiving than a rifle).
Lastly, ne thing I learned right away is muscle gets tired and wobbly; for support bone on bone is more reliable or solid in sitting/kneeling or off-hand/standing.

I have actually heard from some high power guys that are looking for Gen 1 UBR's cause they are heavier,

IIRC, someone makes a weight kit to make them heavier

DWD, nice rifle, man. It's pretty similar to mine, just a minor difference in flavor.

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Originally posted by fritz:
The UBR's cheek rest is pretty good, however it's in a relatively forward position in order to allow the buttstock to collapse forward. This means that a nose-to-charging handle position is required (for me) to get my full cheek on the cheek rest. My preferred position on an AR is with my head a little further back, which results in the back part of my cheek being off the rear end of the cheek piece. Somewhat minor gripe, but it means my head position is slightly different with this AR than with my others.

I seem to recall when I first bought and installed mine that the cheekpiece could be moved rearward at the cost of how short the stock can be collapsed. Have you tried that, or is losing the ability to fully collapse the deterrent?

There have been a couple times I wanted a cheek riser but the last time I checked (a couple years ago) they didn't make one.

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Originally posted by dwd1985:

I then added the Trijicon Aimpoint in a Midwest Industries mount

Is this like a Mercedes BMW or something?

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Originally posted by ARMT Guy:

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Originally posted by dwd1985:

I then added the Trijicon Aimpoint in a Midwest Industries mount

Is this like a Mercedes BMW or something?

Accupoint

Beauty! How much do you have in the rifle if you don’t mind?

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Originally posted by fritz:

The UBR's cheek rest is pretty good, however it's in a relatively forward position in order to allow the buttstock to collapse forward. This means that a nose-to-charging handle position is required (for me) to get my full cheek on the cheek rest. My preferred position on an AR is with my head a little further back, which results in the back part of my cheek being off the rear end of the cheek piece. Somewhat minor gripe, but it means my head position is slightly different with this AR than with my others.

If you don't ever collapse the UBR down farther than the position where you have it set, you can remove the four screws holding the cheekpiece on, and move the entire thing back.

You lose some compact adjustment, but you would correct your head position issue.