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Israel retiring it's Tavor in favor of the M4

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September 05, 2021, 07:53 PM
Dawes
Israel retiring it's Tavor in favor of the M4
That's a surprising turn of events:

https://www.israelhayom.com/20...retires-tavor-rifle/
September 05, 2021, 08:19 PM
limblessbiff
That is surprising, especially since they designed the tavor for the kind of fighting they do.
September 05, 2021, 08:35 PM
Jupiter
I will hold on to mine but I can understand why.
The AR platform is hard to beat.


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September 05, 2021, 09:06 PM
lkdr1989
You know, if they could get into Afghanistan, they could get thousands of M4s for free.




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September 06, 2021, 09:02 AM
flesheatingvirus
No detail in that article. Is this legit? What are the reasons?


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September 06, 2021, 09:08 AM
Voshterkoff
quote:
Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
What are the reasons?


Those M4s are likely covered with the $3.8 Billion dollars we gave them in 2020.
September 06, 2021, 01:55 PM
walker77
Not surprising. Same thing happened to the Galil. They get rifles from the US for free. Why spend money on rifles?
September 06, 2021, 02:02 PM
Ronin101
to bad they couldn't be imported in large numbers!!
September 06, 2021, 07:44 PM
dubagel
FYI, There was a press release today that the IDF is buying more x95’s.
התבורים באים! IDF Announces further Micro Tavor acquisition

אנו מודים לצהל על האמון הרב ועל בחירתו להמשיך ולהצטייד ברובה המיקרו תבור!
בהזדמנות זו אנו מבקשים לאחל שנה טובה לחיילי צהל, עובדי החברה, לקוחותינו ברחבי העולם וכל עם ישראל.
שנה טובה ומתוקה!

We thank the Israel Defense Forces for their continued support and cooperation in choosing the Micro Tavor as their main service rifle. We also want to take this opportunity in wishing the IDF soldiers, IWI employees, our customers around the world, and the Israeli citizens a Very Happy Rosh Hashanah

LINK to IDF article below.

https://www.idf.il/137910/

Photo - @idf

#iwi #IDF #microtavor #x95 #tavor #צהל #IWItavor
September 06, 2021, 10:37 PM
Dyingtime
In the end nothing beats a well made M4 for functionality and ergonomics.


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September 06, 2021, 10:40 PM
rambo
In the desert, I'd much rather have a Galil.

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September 07, 2021, 06:07 PM
ah3
quote:
Originally posted by Dyingtime:
In the end nothing beats a well made M4 for functionality and ergonomics.


Unless you happen to be left handed or left eye dominant. Those unfortunate few of us.
September 07, 2021, 07:20 PM
nhracecraft
^^^There are a multitude of options available to customize the M4/AR15 Rifle to suit Left Eye Dominant/Left Handed Shooters....This is a Non-Issue, and I'm a Lefty, so I'm speaking from experience! Wink


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September 07, 2021, 08:37 PM
Lefty Sig
quote:
Originally posted by nhracecraft:
^^^There are a multitude of options available to customize the M4/AR15 Rifle to suit Left Eye Dominant/Left Handed Shooters....This is a Non-Issue, and I'm a Lefty, so I'm speaking from experience! Wink


And a Tavor can't be used left handed unless you change the bolt and swap the ejection port cover. Gas in the face (M4) or casings in the ear (Tavor)?
September 08, 2021, 09:01 PM
Il Cattivo
Well hooooold yer horses. Apparently more compact 95s will be purchased, but the IDF still plans on buying and issuing Tavors as their 'standard' rifle. Or at least that's so per TFB -

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/...not-replacing-tavor/
September 08, 2021, 09:48 PM
jljones
Man, there are a lot of innovative and interesting carbine ideas out there. But for most applications, America’s Rifle always comes out on top.




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September 09, 2021, 06:42 AM
Batty67
quote:
Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
quote:
Originally posted by nhracecraft:
^^^There are a multitude of options available to customize the M4/AR15 Rifle to suit Left Eye Dominant/Left Handed Shooters....This is a Non-Issue, and I'm a Lefty, so I'm speaking from experience! Wink


And a Tavor can't be used left handed unless you change the bolt and swap the ejection port cover. Gas in the face (M4) or casings in the ear (Tavor)?


Good to know. My son recently emigrated to Israel and will be joining the IDF in a few momths, and he's left eye-dominant so shoots rifles (and hits baseballs) left-handed.
September 09, 2021, 07:10 AM
fritz
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
But for most applications, America’s Rifle always comes out on top.

Careful, the bullpup fans might state you "just aren't getting it"
September 09, 2021, 05:03 PM
Loswsmith
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
Man, there are a lot of innovative and interesting carbine ideas out there. But for most applications, America’s Rifle always comes out on top.


I'd be willing to bet that the M16/M4 platform will outlast the M1911A1 for length of service with the US Military. A lot.


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September 09, 2021, 07:13 PM
P-220
Well, they finally came to their senses. I do love the M4. Apparently I am not alone.


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