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I own an FP6 that I picked up from a pawnshop in 2007. It's identical to this one:



https://www.northwestfirearms....-shotgun-7-1.120806/

Apparently, they had the H&K marked case for it sitting in back of the shop for about a year after I picked it up, and since they couldn't figure out what it went with, they tossed it in the dumpster out back one spring cleaning day. My brother found out about it and told me, wincingly, one evening years and years later.

Only thing I don't have for it that I want for it are the forward assist action spring, the LPA rear sight, and the pistol grip stock that appeared on some variants, and then was later redesigned into the Martial 12. Trying to locate and actually buy these parts over the last 11 years has been... difficult. Lots of dead ends, lots of unanswered emails and unreturned phone calls. Nobody gives a shit about these shotguns, I get it. But while it's stuff that's still in production, I want to find those parts, I absolutely love this damn spacegun.

This is the stock I'm looking to snag for it:



I just saw today that Fabarm is now importing the STF-12, which is the next generation of spacegun development in the 12ga. It's like a SIG Swiss stock humped a Browning A5 somehow, and some other stuff happened. I HATE the muzzle break and will want to install a plain choke and have absolutely zero need for one, but dammit, I want one. The pic below is what I want.

I called a shop in Seattle that is listed on the dealer site, and the guy was like "yeah, sometimes, we can get some of their stuff in." Once I told him it was a pump, he acted like he could actually help me. We'll see if he actually calls back.



I know they're mostly known for trap guns, and I'd love to hear about yours if you have one of them. If you have anything Fabarm, I'd be thrilled not to be the only one here, lol.


One thing about this shotgun that surprised me the first instant I handled it was how amazing the stock feels in the hand. The other thread about pistol or traditional stock on a Benelli got me thinking immediately about this stock. It's better than just about any shotgun stock I've handled in this style, and that's not a few. The texture is grippy, and the palm swells are quite large. I want to own the Pro Forces/ Martial pistol grip stock, but I'm not sure it's what I would ultimately settle on. How good this stock feels in the hand was the one thing that kept me from buying the other version the only other time I was sure I could have gotten one, but opted not to spend the money.


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There semi auto hunting guns are becoming very popular in the hunting world. I haven't had a chance to shoot one yet but they seem to be getting a lot of good reviews from those who own and hunt with them.


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I have a HK marked Fabarm H368 lion. It's a semi auto 12 gauge, 28" barrel synthetic stock. I bought it sometime around the era yours is. I have put somewhere in the neighborhood of 7,000-10,000 rounds through it. I used to trap shoot every weekend with it for several years. It's accurate and a great shooting gun. I only had 1 issue with it and light primer strikers around the 6,000 round mark and sent it back to Davidsons and they fixed it free (offered a lifetime warranty through the dealer I bought it from). It's been a great gun, but one time Sig distributed them, then HK. Parts are hard to find for them though, even though Fabarm has made shotguns for like 100 years.
 
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I also have an HK Fabarm H368. I caught a sale on tactical-length barrels for it a few years ago so have both a skeet and self-defense setup. (Would love to find a magazine extension for it). Back some 10 years ago one of the old-time trap/skeet shooters I know sold out his stuff and I picked up a H&K/Fabarm Classic Lion SXS in 12 gauge.
I love the balance and adjustments you can do on the stock. Most of my friends moved on from SXS to semi-autos, but I like the old school feel.
Both have performed just fine for me.
 
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Looking at the H368, the synthetic version of the stock is what's on my FP6.

About the FP6, I will say this about it: I grew up on a very nice Wingmaster 870, and I honestly think the FP6 is a better mousetrap. I know that's a borderline heretical statement, but I stand by it. It's what the 870 Express should have been. It's beefier and sturdier in so many ways, and that's not even getting into how smooth everything works and how nicely things are fitted together. It made it easy enough to sell my custom 870 build that I put together myself and sunk a chunk of money into.


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Looking at the H368, the synthetic version of the stock is what's on my FP6.

About the FP6, I will say this about it: I grew up on a very nice Wingmaster 870, and I honestly think the FP6 is a better mousetrap. I know that's a borderline heretical statement, but I stand by it. It's what the 870 Express should have been. It's beefier and sturdier in so many ways, and that's not even getting into how smooth everything works and how nicely things are fitted together. It made it easy enough to sell my custom 870 build that I put together myself and sunk a chunk of money into.


The synthetic stock on mine has gotten kind of sticky. The fit and finish on the gun is very very good. The old Remington 1100's were fit and finished very well, then once they went to the thicker barrel (for legal purposes), the fit and finish seemed to go downhill ever since.

I was looking around on the web and noticed Fabarm now has an official presence in the US. FabarmUSA located in MD. So maybe spare parts can be ordered directly from them?

Edited to add: I think the magazine on mine will hold 5 rounds if I remember correctly, but has a wooden dowel in it to make it hold 2 rounds for hunting. I never investigated how to remove it because I only use mine for trap shooting.

https://fabarmusa.com/
 
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The old kick myself kind of story goes along with this one.
I turned 18 in 2001 bought my 1st .22 and it spurned from there Mom bought me a Saiga and I felt a shotgun would be good too.
I was new to this stuff and passed on an FP6 for a Remington 870.
Sure wish I would have gotten the FP6. If I recall correctly it was the car on fiber model.

Maybe one day I’ll come across one at a gun show and actually have a little spare coin.

I saw the new FABARMS brochure in the LGS the other day as the rep had just been in.
I like the look and would be very intrigued if the civilian model could have the folder.
I asked if they would be getting any and he said they ordered none and weren’t too impressed.


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Sure wish I would have gotten the FP6. If I recall correctly it was the car on fiber model.


I'm wincing for you right now reading that. Yeah, I honestly wouldn't mind owning one of the carbon fiber models, but it's probably never going to happen.

Jimmy, I'll try contacting the MD office. When I really tried last, I had to email guys in Italy.


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I came across a Fabarm shotgun at a local gun show several years ago. I don't recall the model, but it was similar in appearance to the ones pictured here. The 2 things that drew me to stop and look at the gun were its HK markings and that it had an interesting wedge or fan shaped muzzle attachment. The seller had a hand written index card explaining what the gun was and its features. Apparently the fan shaped attachment was designed to pattern shot into a roughly hallway shape and size. I think it had some sort of sensationalistic name like "Hallway Sweeper" or something similar but I can't recall for certain.

One of the shotguns my father loved to bird hunt with was an old Savage 440B which was actually manufactured by FABARMs but imported by Savage...a very well made and nice looking shotgun.
 
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Turkey apparently manufactures the FP6 as the Hatsan Escort. They may have even bought the tooling from Italy when FP6 production ceased there.
 
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MDS, was this it?

http://www.paradigmsrp.com/gator-shotgun-spreader/

Not having any luck finding anything about a Fabarm hallway choke or OEM duckbill spreader, or maybe I’m not using the right search terms. You’ve got my curiosity piqued.

Dawes, I looked at everything Hatsan offers, and while they look similar, that’s very definitely a different animal, especially in the receiver.

Busy week, haven’t tried contacting the new Fabarms USA office. Going to try to get an email out to them tonight.


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No, it definitely wasn't a Duckbill or Gator spreader. I should probably mention that I saw this many years ago when I attended gun shows more frequently, and so my recollection isn't perfectly clear. It was probably 15-20 years ago that I saw it.

My best recollection of the device was that it was more boxy and angular. Somewhat similar in appearance to a muzzle brake you might see on large bore precision rifle like a Barret.

I had assumed that the shotgun muzzle pattern device on it was a factory acccessory...but I suppose it could have been something aftermarket or perhaps even a fabricated one-off home made device. It's just that the index card explaining this feature seemed like it was explaining a "known" device already in existence and named, but not widely seen, is my impression.

In the deepest darkest recesses in my memory it seems to me that several years ago there was a relevant discussion in this forum and somewhere in that discussion was mention of this device.

When I have time I'll try to go through my records and see if I can find that discussion.
 
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Interesting. If you find anything about it, I'd be happy to learn more.

I emailed Fabarm USA with three part numbers (stock, rear sight and forward assist spring) to see if I can order them. Waiting to hear back.


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Interesting. If you find anything about it, I'd be happy to learn more.

I emailed Fabarm USA with three part numbers (stock, rear sight and forward assist spring) to see if I can order them. Waiting to hear back.


If memory serves correct that LPA rear sight was used across many shotgun lines.
I am also pretty sure it was marketed as a rear sight that would mate with the factory front hooded sight for the 556s.

I had one on my 522 for awhile until I was able to get a set of the 522 specific sights.
I sold it here on the forum. You way want to try a WTB ad here.


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Pretty sure this is what you are looking for.
https://www.midwayusa.com/prod...yle-mount-steel-blue


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Well. Those went up about fifty bucks since I priced one out about eight years ago. Ow...

Thanks for the link, man. I think maybe a wtb ad is not a bad idea. Eek


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Well. Those went up about fifty bucks since I priced one out about eight years ago. Ow...

Thanks for the link, man. I think maybe a wtb ad is not a bad idea. Eek


Pretty sure I paid $75 about 10 years ago forget what I sold it for. Maybe $50 as that is what the 522 sights cost.


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Heard back from someone at Fabarm USA. He said that nothing using those parts is currently being imported, so he doesn't have, and can't get parts. If the Pro-Forces/Martial model isn't being imported, I'm hosed for getting my hands on one of those stocks. He suggested aftermarket/3rd party or trying to hound someone at Fabarm and see if they had some old parts kicking around. But his tone over the phone told me that was probably a waste of time. So basically, I guess it is what it is.

I'm going to try to run down some used ones, I guess. Outside of WTB ads and just getting lucky, I'm not sure where to turn.

The shop in Seattle never called back. Big shocker, there.


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Try Numrich, oddly enough about the only parts they have for most of the fabarm shotguns.....ARE stocks...….

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/fabarm
 
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I have a HK Fabarms FP6 with heat shield, 7+1 extension, factory hard case, and factory (Choate) folding stock. I have a Surefire WML on the forearm rail.

I bought it years ago from the guy that posted ballistics test results on AR15.com. It was one of his test shotguns.

It kicks like a mule with the Choate stock. I have been meaning to find a factory pistol grip stock and change it out but have never gotten around to it.
 
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