Are you a Gucci or simple carbine owner?

January 16, 2023, 09:16 PM

jljones

I don’t know the model. It’s the 16 inch front sight block model. I actually plan on outfitting it the way my agency issues it to patrol guys. Vortex Spark and Streamlight TLR-1HL

January 17, 2023, 02:00 AM

Sigolicious

What's the cliche, I reject your reality and insert my own?

Simple = adapting to the rifle's limitations.
Gucci = adapting the rifle to my limitations.

It doesn't really matter either way as long as the goal is to improve.

Based on my criteria, I voted no.

January 17, 2023, 05:26 AM

KSGM

quote:
Simple = adapting to the rifle's limitations.
Gucci = adapting the rifle to my limitations.

I like that. Well said. Maybe not THE way to look at it, but a nice way to perhaps put a big chunk of the question into perspective.

January 17, 2023, 12:27 PM

CPD SIG

I like the KISS principle.
The more you add, the more that will go wrong.

I have an LMT Defender 2000 as my Work Gun. Heavy lil sucker. So the more I add, the heavier it gets.

Light, sling, red dot.
Same for my HD AR.

If I was going back overseas, or was playing with Night Vision again, an APTIAL / IR Light-Laser is almost a must have.

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January 17, 2023, 04:13 PM

Ryanp225

quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
It’s like a sling condom, right?

Always tarp your load.

January 17, 2023, 04:16 PM

Ryanp225

quote:
Originally posted by CPD SIG:
I like the KISS principle.
The more you add, the more that will go wrong.

That's not the definition of "Gucci".
Wilson Combat, BCM, etc are Gucci carbines.
PSA, S&W, Anderson, etc are mil spec simple carbines and for the poors.

January 17, 2023, 11:03 PM

kimberkid

quote:
Originally posted by Brother:
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
In the middle. A few more options than a bare bones carbine, but not full-on Gucci.

Light
Sling
Optic
BUIS
Medium extended charging handle
Stubby vertical foregrip (used more like a hand stop)

This me as well . . .

Mostly me as well, but there are a couple that have more.

January 18, 2023, 06:40 AM

KevinCW

Split the difference maybe?

I don't think I qualify as a "gear queer" but I do add a few items to any rifle that may be used.

The work gun was bought as a stock RRA Entry Tactical (their name) carbine. It had a basic 6 position stock, and fixed irons with a mount "handle" that was useless as a handle but a good rear sight.

I removed that, and put in a BUIS rear sight, Aimpoint Micro red dot, removed the stock hand guard and installed a quad rail. I added a stub VFG, Surefire flashlight, and upgraded to a BCM medium size charging handle (easier to use and grip than stock). Lastly I added a sling mount on the rear buffer plate, because it didn't come with one and we are required to have a sling to use the rifle on duty.

I consider those all upgrades and functional ones. I thin a red dot optic is a worthwhile upgrade on any gun. Same with a larger charging handle and VFG. I consider a light a MUST HAVE on any gun that may be used for defensive purposes.

January 18, 2023, 02:26 PM

RichardC

quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:

Stubby vertical foregrip (used more like a hand stop)

Like this?

"JMAC Customs has announced the release of their HRD MLOK handstop in anodized Gucci Green.

https://attackcopter.com/2023/...stop-in-gucci-green/

January 18, 2023, 02:28 PM

RogueJSK

quote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Stubby vertical foregrip (used more like a hand stop)

Like this?

No, that's an actual handstop.

I'm talking about a short vertical grip like this:
https://bravocompanyusa.com/bc...ok-compatible-black/
or this
https://bravocompanyusa.com/ta...vertical-grip-black/

Used more like this:

January 18, 2023, 02:36 PM

Ryanp225

Stubby foregrips are the shizznit. I too use it like in the picture.
It's also handy if you're walking or standing for long periods of time. Having two vertical grips lessens fatigue.

January 19, 2023, 04:05 PM

jljones

Maybe someone will come along to inform us that C Clamp is the debil.

January 19, 2023, 04:06 PM

RogueJSK

January 19, 2023, 04:29 PM

RNshooter

I like medium-simple:
ALG triggers, Geiselle charging handles, and a Fastfire red dot.
Solid and reliable.

Bruce

"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams

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January 20, 2023, 04:26 AM

Replacement Tommel

I guess I'm Gucci. 2 LMT MRP quadrail M4geries w/ Trijicon MROs. Geiselle triggers, BCM charging handles, enhanced LMT bolts. One is DI and the other is a Piston.

-Tom

January 20, 2023, 06:36 AM

Chris17404

I identify as a Dolce & Gabbana carbine owner. My pronouns are Kate Spade and Prada.

January 21, 2023, 09:27 PM

JoshNC

Some of both and the full spectrum in between.

January 22, 2023, 11:53 AM

CPD SIG

quote:
Originally posted by Ryanp225:
quote:
Originally posted by CPD SIG:
I like the KISS principle.
The more you add, the more that will go wrong.

That's not the definition of "Gucci".
Wilson Combat, BCM, etc are Gucci carbines.
PSA, S&W, Anderson, etc are mil spec simple carbines and for the poors.

The next line-
LMT Defender 2000

Would that qualify as "Gucci"?