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Quite sad, as is the history with our politicians and "the agency". Once you outlive your usefulness. You are thrown to the wolves. | |||
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Especially during WWII lots of non gun companies produced massive amounts of armament in some case more than the traditional arms makers themselves For example Remington Rand made more 1911A1’s than almost all other contractors including colt combined, and got an award for top notch quality control. With M1 carbines, the company that designed the gun, Winchester made far fewer than a number of the other contractors. Just referring to carbines, some companies that were non gun companies that made them National postal meter Rock-ola ( typically made juke boxes) Saginaw steering gear Inland division of General Motors IBM ( adding machines at the time) ( not an all inclusive list) 1903-A3 smith corona typewriter M16A1’s were predominantly colt, but also GM- Hydramatic and H&R as well. Back during WWI New England Westinghouse made M1891’s for Russia My clawson “big book” lists all sorts of contractors who were initially contracted to produce 1911’s in WWI and A1’s in WWII but didn’t get production going for whatever reason | |||
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You are most likely correct. | |||
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Royal Typewriter made 1918's (BAR) AC sparkplug made M2 50 cal, Saginaw took over the IP plant, so you had Saginaw produciton and Saginaw Gear (S,G,) carbines, and lots more, https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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In addition to M1 Carbines, IBM also made Browning Automatic Rifles during WW2. Underwood (a typewriter company) made M1 Carbines as well. International Harvester (the truck and tractor company) made 337k M1 Garands during the Korean War era. Singer (the sewing machine company) made a small run of ~500 M1911A1s during WW2, and Union Switch and Signal (a railroad signal manufacturer) made around 50k. Baldwin Locomotive Works (a train manufacturer) first made artillery shells and P14 rifles at their Eddystone plant for the Brits during WW1, and later switched to making M1917 rifles for the US military after we entered the war, before returning to making locomotives after WW1 ended. Etc. Here's a good overview from Gun Jesus of how this approach of contracting with non-gun companies to make guns during wartime worked: | |||
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A lot of folks will hear "Remington-Rand" and think "Remington" as in firearms, but Remington-Rand was a typewriter company at the time, too. ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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Don't forget about the Saginaw division M1 carbines.
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Smith-Corona was another typewriter maker, all the plants S of Syracuse (where I grew up) closed 30+ years ago. I read the company made M1 Garands during WWII, but I do not know where. | |||
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Smith-Corona made ~250k M1903A3 rifles, but no Garands. These 03A3s were made at their main typewriter factory in Syracuse. USGI Garands were only made by Springfield, Winchester, Harrington Richardson, and International Harvester. (There were a few other companies that also made Garands over the years after WW2, just not for US military use, including Beretta in the late 1950s and early 60s for NATO militaries like Italy and Denmark, plus several companies that made Garands strictly for commercial sales on the civilian market.) | |||
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And of these, only Springfield Armory and Winchester during WWII, the others were post-war. The Korean-era manufacturers, I've heard it said by a collector I trust on this, none of those rifles actually ever made it to Korea in any sort of numbers that count, if any. The M1's that fought in Korea were almost all WWII surplus. ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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