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| CZ 455 Scout.
Can upgrade the stock to fullsize later on, so it can grow with them. |
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| A S&W M&P 15-22 has peep sights and a collapsible stock, which can start off fully collapsed and adjust up as they grow. Plus it builds AR platform familiarization.
It's an ideal starter rifle, since it will be useful from the beginning to well into their shooting life, unlike something like a single shot children's .22 that they'll quickly outgrow (both in size and skills).
However, they may need that very small child's .22, like a Rascal or Cricket, at the very beginning. The 15-22 is light, but even a full collapsed AR could be too big for a 7 year old. However, if that turns out to be the case, the 15-22 would be an ideal second rifle once they grow a little. Or, you could just stick to the air rifle for a year or two before starting them on the 15-22. |
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| quote: Originally posted by RHINOWSO: CZ 455 Scout.
Can upgrade the stock to fullsize later on, so it can grow with them.
This would get my vote. I like a box-fed bolt action for teaching kids...I have a Marlin Glenfield 25 that I use for that purpose. The only real difficulty with it is that the stock is pretty long. The nice thing about the CZ Scout is it has a shorter LOP, and as Rhino pointed out, the stock can be replaced with a full-size as the child grows into it. Semi-autos have a tendency to turn into a bullet hose, and as a result the kid learns how to expend ammo, but very little about the fundamentals of marksmanship. And while I'm a huge fan of lever-actions, they don't bench as well as a bolt-action, and I don't like that most have to be loaded from near the muzzle, which is counter-intuitive when you're trying to teach safe weapon handling and muzzle discipline. IMO lever guns are a better choice for bigger kids who have mastered the basics off of a bench and are ready to start shooting offhand. As to the Crickets and other multi-colored kid rifles....they're ok if you're looking for a disposable teaching aid. But the CZ Scout is a quality rifle that will last the kid a lifetime, can grow with them (with a new stock), and will be something they can shoot years from now with their own kids and tell them about how grandpa taught them to shoot on it. |
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| quote: Originally posted by RogueJSK: A S&W M&P 15-22 has peep sights and a collapsible stock, which can start off fully collapsed and adjust up as they grow. Plus it builds AR platform familiarization.
It's an ideal starter rifle, since it will be useful from the beginning to well into their shooting life, unlike something like a single shot children's .22 that they'll quickly outgrow (both in size and skills).
However, they may need that very small child's .22, like a Rascal or Cricket, at the very beginning. The 15-22 is light, but even a full collapsed AR could be too big for a 7 year old. However, if that turns out to be the case, the 15-22 would be an ideal second rifle once they grow a little. Or, you could just stick to the air rifle for a year or two before starting them on the 15-22.
This or a 10/22 carbine that you could modify with them as they grow..... |
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| And I'll add that I have several options.
CZ 452 was their starter rifle.
From there we moved on to the Ruger 10/22 (with lightweight Tacsol barrel) and an S&W M&P-15/22 once fundamentals were down. It also gives it some 'fun' to shoot fast, etc. Because if you are just all slow and the fun lapses, they won't want to come back.
Now they also shoot my CZ455 / 17HMR for a little more 'bang' and are about to step up to 5.56 AR15s from the bench (age 12 now, been shooting a couple years). |
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| MY kids have a Cricket that they haven't had to the range yet. Single shot, requires it to be cocked after being loaded. My first 22 was a Marlin 60. Many thousands of rounds through it & that I can recall, still all original parts.
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| Look at a Henry youth lever .22. I have the full size H001 model and It is a great shooter. Jim
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| quote: Originally posted by RobC2: Lots of good suggestions, I appreciate it. I am really liking the CZ 455 Scout. Seems they were discontinued recently.
Yeah, the modified the rifle to an American style safety on the side of the receiver with the 457, which has a Scout as well. https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-scout/ |
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| Used Marlin 39. If you can find one. Or a new Henry. Levers are fun.
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| Second on Marlins. Preferably older models if you can find them, model 60s, 925, papoose, 981t etc. I love my CZ513 basic but good luck finding those anymore. |
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| I really like the Savage Rascal as a first rifle for kids that age. My daughter was 7 when she started with hers. Small and light enough that they can learn to be responsible with all aspects of gun handling. Simple enough that they can still have fun while learning. My daughter moved up to a Collector Series 10/22 with the compact stock insert when she was 10. |
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| Started my son on a CZ 452 Scout, he still has it. It is a real non-toy bolt action rifle, well made. The sights weren't the greatest, but the bolt action rifle taught him patience and marksmanship. He eventually went on to an Anschutz 1903 Jr., and put a Nikon scope on the Scout. The new 457 Scout looks great, seems to be an improved model.
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