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Haven't shot a match yet, but this is what I know so far. One Wed they shoot standing no rests and shoot at 20 targets consisting of 5 per row of things like turkeys, ram, and other animals. The following week they shoot off bench at a target with small dot in middle. If you hit dot it is an X. That is all I know so far. I went last night just to plink with an AR - 22 and ran into one of the guys shooting a CZ match rifle with a pretty good sized stock. He also had a Bushnell Forge Scope that was amazingly clear at 16X. He said the scope was $750 which I said I had no idea Bushnell made a scope that cost that much. Always found them in the $79.99 to $200 range. I found a few CZ's at KYGunCo that I hope to check out this week. Still working on scope since I can't find a Leupold Rimfire anywhere right now. Thanks for all the suggestions. Option 1 https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=137924 Option 2 https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=137925 NRA Life Member | |||
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I had a NIB Nikon Prostaff Rimfire 3-9x40 sitting around that I put on my new 457. Really nice glass, paid about $80 for it a couple yrs ago, but we know what happened to Nikon. Like a dead rockstar, Nikon scopes are worth more now (looked on ebay and that same scope is fetching $160 now) then when they were still making them. With such demand, seems like a stupid move to have stopped making some very popular optics. looking at Euro Optic, seems like at that price point Bushnell has a lot of options, as you pointed out. Did see this Sig Whiskey 3 3-9x40 though for $129 on sale. Dont have a Sig scope yet but have heard some good things. https://www.eurooptic.com/Sig-...cle-025-M-33202.aspx
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I just left Cabelas and looked at their RimFire branded scope and a Vortex 2x7 and both are blurry after 5 power. Can't find anything else locally. NRA Life Member | |||
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Our range has a match where shooters engage targets from 25 yards out to 225 yards. I've seen many of the .22s listed here at the events try to compete with the CZs and they can't hang very long. The Ruger 10/22s with a match barrel can do alright but by the time you upgrade the barrel, you could have bought a CZ. The Ruger RPRs can have extraction problems. Ruger is aware of the issue but has not addressed it as of yet. The CZ 452 and 455 are earlier models of the 457. The 457 has several upgrades which, for me, make it a better system over the 452 and 455. The 457 has a better adjustable trigger that works out of the box. It also has a 60 degree bolt throw which helps with operating the bolt and avoiding scope interference. Another benefit is the bolt handle is threaded so you can use aftermarket bolt knobs of your choosing. The CZ 457 comes a few different models. I'd get a "plain Jane" varmint model ($500) and put a low end Vortex or Athlon scope on it and go have fun. One think to consider is weight. Our matches have shooters who are between 25 and 50 years of age engaging targets from supported and unsupported positions with a round count of 150-200 rounds. If you're shooting completely unsupported and getting long in the tooth, a different barrel contour might be advisable. ____________________________________________________________ Money may not buy happiness...but it will certainly buy a better brand of misery A man should acknowledge his losses just as gracefully as he celebrates his victories Remember, in politics it's not who you know...it's what you know about who you know | |||
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Good points. I just turned 51 so I was looking at the Varmint Model to save some weight with unsupported matches. Cabela's had the Ruger target rifles in stock today and I didn't care for the metal stock on them and the action was rough. I'm going to KYGunco on Sat to look at the CZ's. I haven't looked at Athlon scopes, but the low end Rimfire Vortex won't work with targets at only 50 feet. NRA Life Member | |||
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If you want an economy starter that shoots well above the price, savage mark II FV-SR. I use mine for nrl 22 matches as well as silhouette matches out to 100 meters. Also a group in my area does long range shoots out to 300 yards. The rifle sells for only $250 or so, and I am using an Athlon scope ( Argos 6-24, first focal plane) available on wal mart .com For around $300. My whole rig ( gun scope mount rings bipod magazines the whole shooting match if you will) cost me under $700. Maybe some day I will find the rifle and optic hold me back, but that is a long time away! | |||
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I'll have to check that out. Thank You. So at 50 feet you can use the 24X setting and it is clear?
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Just ordered on of these. Neos 4-12×40 BDC 22 Rimfire NRA Life Member | |||
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This. People who still say "Tikka" or "CZ" (for the under $1,000 category) have not been keeping up with the times. Bergara B14R is the new king in that price range, and in addition to being a tack driver, it allows a lot more flexibility for future upgrades, as well as the ability to make a rimfire clone of a centerfire PRS rifle, like a Vudoo or RimX but at 1/3 the price. | |||
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No offense intended, but that sounds kinda boring. Try to find a PRS .22 match, and if you don't have one of those nearby, NRL .22. Bushnell actually has had some higher end scopes for a while now, some with MSRP of over $2k. The XRS and DMR series actually have very good glass for their price, as well as a lifetime warranty. Those two lines are made in Japan. | |||
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That seems like the traditional rimfire metallic silhouette course* and with all the shooting being offhand, it’s anything but boring—unless, of course, missing is boring.  I won the new shooter division of the first centerfire match I shot in the early 1970s with a Ruger 77 in 270 Winchester and fixed 6× Lyman scope by scoring 14 hits on 40 targets. Of course, that was in the early days of the sport when practically everyone used actual hunting rifles. All the best; they sound like fun. Let us know how you do. Added: FWIW, rifles with heavy barrels are usually preferred for “positional” shooting like unsupported offhand because their greater inertia helps dampen small movements when trying to hold the gun steady. My ancient Winchester model 52 that I used for three position shooting long ago weighs nearly 12 pounds (with Redfield 3200 scope) and has a barrel measuring nearly 28 inches long × 7/8 inch at the muzzle. Not suggesting that that’s what you want, but it’s the reason for such guns. * Half of it, anyway; I believe formal matches require a minimum of 40 shots. ► 6.4/93.6 ___________ “We are Americans …. Together we have resisted the trap of appeasement, cynicism, and isolation that gives temptation to tyrants.” — George H. W. Bush | |||
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You could also try IHMSA small bore division. 40 targets, 4 ranges, out to 100 meters. With a handgun. | |||
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Is see if you could find an old Mossberg 42 or the like. Baby enough barrel, plenty accurate enough, but won't kill the bank. My 42b shoots better than I do, but keeps up with the 1000 dollar CZ guns that I've seen at my range. I shall respect you until you open your mouth, from that point on, you must earn it yourself. | |||
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I once had a Savage Mark II that shot pretty well. The big thing about 22s is the ammo. Serious competition shooters buy test lots to see what their rifle likes. Then they buy all they can if they find a killer lot number. Eley match and above or Lapua Center X are what I see most at matches that are using custom built 22 benchrest rifles. I am sure a good ammo matched to what ever rifle you buy will go a long way on the ultimate performance. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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I set up a 22-target rig to try NRL22: CZ-457 AT-ONE 24-inch https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-varmint-at-one/ Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6-25X50 FFP https://vortexoptics.com/vorte...ml?vortex_reticle=22 Spooky accurate "No matter where you go - there you are" | |||
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This combo would get you started for the price of the Bergara alone. I have a 455 LUX that's accurate enough, but if I ever decide to upgrade the barrel it's a 10\22 style system. Not knocking the B14s, which is a great choice if you want a 700 clone for any number of reasons.
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I tried a Win 52 and a Rem 37 offhand without a palm rest once, with my Unertl 16x on it, I cannot hold those big guns hard enough (need to get in better shape, or use a palm rest,,,) https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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I have a CZ special trainer that I have done some trigger work (spring kit) and a poor mans bedding job on and it eats up some 50m dot torture....if am on that day. As several have said ammo is really important, once I picked up a case of Eley target my groups really shrank. The only thing I dislike about the CZ trainer is the irons limit scope size unless I used X tall rings. | |||
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Okay, I thought I had this figured out. I picked up a Ruger 77/22 bolt gun with crappy scope. My new scope showed up today and it works great at 25 feet, but not on the rifle. Really Clear at 25 feet and using 12x power. I go to mount the scope on the Ruger and the action won't work. The bolt is hitting the scope. (See Photos) I guess I could go with higher rings, but the scope has a pretty large eye piece so I may be back to square one.   So I may still go look at a CZ tomorrow since they have a 60 degree bolt and take the scope with me to make sure. I know these matches may be dumb, but the club is 15 min away and it is a good way to get out of the house. CZ guys do you think this scope will work on a CZ with 60 degree bolt? Thanks. NRA Life Member | |||
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