54 match rifle. It's a model 1411 that someone put in a 1807 model stock. I plan to scope it and anticipate it being a good shooter. 1964 year model. Between the 40X,52D, and this one I got the target rifles covered. Guess I could look for a Kimber 82G and a H&R M12 yet !!

That's a lot of lumber.

I was almost tempted to ask "Do people still buy things like that?" , but you did, so I guess so. lol

Somewhere in my house there's an H&R 5200 I believe? Though I haven't seen in a decade or more, but I know it must be here somewhere. Now and then when I make a mental list of "things that should probably go live somewhere else", I think of it. I think, "I could sell it, but who's gonna buy it?" Do people still shoot small bore rifle? Or is it mostly nostalgia, and people doing .22 Benchrest type stuff?

I don't even know why I own it. I mean I do, I remember my dad buying it and bringing it home. But I don't know why he bought it. I already owned a Savage/Anschutz target rifle that I'd already quit shooting years before, so the purchase didn't make sense. I learned myself years later that they often don't, and don't need to make sense.

I LOVE that wood target stock!

Theres quite a few people who still buy .22 classic target rifles. These Annies, Remington 40x, and Winchester 52s all have a big following. A lot of custom benchrest rifles are based off these rifles. I shoot with a group of guys who along with CZs and Vudoos have some of these same rifles.

The 54 Match I've read is among the most accurate target rifles ever made. I had a 64 Match which was sold off but, was such a perfect piece of paper punching gear. I've gotten away, as I age from shouldering the heavy barrel guns but can still print like a pro with intermediate weights of rifles. You must add, and I am serious, a 1922 M2 Springfield to your awsome .22 rifle collection.

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Originally posted by David Lee:
The 54 Match I've read is among the most accurate target rifles ever made. I had a 64 Match which was sold off but, was such a perfect piece of paper punching gear. I've gotten away, as I age from shouldering the heavy barrel guns but can still print like a pro with intermediate weights of rifles. You must add, and I am serious, a 1922 M2 Springfield to your awsome .22 rifle collection.

I hear you! The 40XB weighs 13-1/2 lbs. No way I could shoulder that one. Benchrest only for me.

Sehr schönes Gewehr! Nice Rifle.

Let us know what ammo it ends up liking the best. I've got your Kimber when you're ready for it............dj

Thanks. The weather here is terrible for shooting for the next week or more. I have three scopes to get sighted in so I am wanting to get out of the house and shoot pretty bad!

Are you left handed?

I am RH for most things but I am left eye dominant so I shoot long guns lefty. This stock is a left hand stock with RH bolt, which is perfect for me. All my other rifles are RH models I have adapted to .

Got my scope (B&L 36X ) and my Harrells tuner mounted on the Anschutz today. Ready to get it dialed in this week.

I will be curious to learn your impressions of barrel tuners.

I think they help to tighten up your shot groups. I haven't seen a huge gain but every little bit helps and that's why I use them.

What kind of competition is that stock made for? Biathlon? And is the barrel tuner device just a dampening weight, or is there porting in it?

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Originally posted by egregore:
What kind of competition is that stock made for? Biathlon? And is the barrel tuner device just a dampening weight, or is there porting in it?

From what I understand that stock is a 3 position stock. The original gun had a prone stock Model (1411). Previous owner swapped to the current one which is a Model (1807L). The tuner is only a dampening device, no porting. This one clamps on with a split tightened with two hex head screws. You measure the barrel with calipers one inch back from the muzzle. This one was . 907" and fit perfectly.

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Originally posted by egregore:
And is the barrel tuner device just a dampening weight, or is there porting in it?

Their purpose is to effectively change the length of the barrel by adjusting a weighted section forward or back. That in turn changes the “harmonics” of the barrel, i.e., how it vibrates when the gun is fired and the bullet travels through the bore. At one time Browning offered rifles with their now-discontinued “BOSS” system that worked the same way. Over the years there have been other attempts to accomplish the same thing by other means such as putting something like a rubber donut weight on the barrel that could be placed in different positions.

I’m not completely certain I understand how changing the barrel harmonics would improve precision; point of impact, yes, but tightening groups is less clear to me. That’s especially true with something like a heavy steel 22 Long Rifle barrel: does it really vibrate that much?
Nevertheless, many people believe they help, or can.

The first question with such a device is whether shooter input affects results; i.e., am I more careful when testing a new tuner than when shooting normally? How carefully are my tests conducted and are they extensive enough to be statistically valid? Does the ammunition type matter? If so, how many ammo types do I test, and what lots? Under what environmental conditions? If I already have a very precise setup, can I shoot well enough for a small improvement to help—or will I even be able to detect a difference? And so on.

Despite recognizing all that, I’m still curious about the devices, and am seriously considering getting one for my Tikka T1x which is why I ask and try to research the question.

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Originally posted by got2hav1:
From what I understand that stock is a 3 position stock.

By “3 position” that refers (or used to, anyway) to competitions involving shooting from … well, three positions: offhand (standing), kneeling, and prone. A stock that’s ideally suited for shooting only from the prone isn’t as good for kneeling and offhand.

I never had any experience with the type of stock pictured, but for example, the fact that it extends down to the level of the bottom of the trigger guard would make it a little better for shooting from the traditional offhand position in which the support arm elbow rests on the shooter’s hipbone and the rifle itself rests on the shooter’s palm. Other types of stocks may permit the addition of a separate palm rest, but sometimes such aids are prohibited in certain competition disciplines. They’re also something extra to fiddle with; a stock that makes it possible without an add-on can be a benefit.

Sig,what I am going to do is to start at "0" with a few brands of ammo and find out what it likes. Then I will use the best of the bunch to start tuning. And since you are tuning the barrel you will likely find a setting or two that groups tighter than the rest. Then test more extensively with those. That is what I have done in the past. If I change ammo or lots of the same ammo, I might try one or two clicks left or right of the desired setting to see if it makes a difference. What I have found on my CZ457/Lilja combo is that it shoots the best with Lapua OSP and setting at "23". I usually shoot the same ammo on the same setting. I do think it's best to try to tune on more than one occasions to verify your results. You likely won't see a huge improvement.

I have a DI Precision Vudoo 22lr with an EC tuner. You can "shrink" some groups down by changing the settings. I'll say nearly all the groups are pretty good in the rifle, but you can "trim" the group size a little with the tuner. As I see it in 22lr, you can take a very consistent ammo you have and change the harmonics to adjust to your barrel length.
I bought the barrelled action used by a guy who wanted something closer to his PRS rifle in weight and it had the tuner already. I probably wouldn't have considered one, but they seem to have some validity in my limited experience. I'd buy another based on what I've observed so far.

Beautiful rifle. I love me some wood and metal guns.

Standing by for range report.