Remington 1903-A3 Sport Back To Military Configuration

March 23, 2019, 11:18 AM

lyman

quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
I saw a 1903 in a LGS today, someone had put a Lyman peep sight on it and a hooded front sight globe on it...ruining its collectibility (screw holes in the receiver).

They still wanted $950 for it.

was it a NRA rifle ?

common conversion to use in NRA Match Rifle comps back in the day,

those lyman 48's can bring some good change (teh 57's not as much but still bring good money)

March 23, 2019, 08:11 PM

MikeinNC

If it’s a nra rifle is it still worth 950???

I searched the internet and it’s not gonna be a NRA rifle. It’s one someone added Lyman sights and globe front sight to...nothing more. I remember the stacking swivel was stamped and it was a Smith corona and maybe was made in the 40s...I’ll go back on Monday and see for sure.

But I’m not handing over 950for a buggered up 1903

March 23, 2019, 09:48 PM

David Lee

My area NRA Rep back in New York got a Winchester 1903 in the early years of the Government sales for $12.00. Care to guess what that rifle is valued at today? Many of the 1903s were and still are used in competition. A skilled shooter can score quite well against the Garand, the AR and even those exotic bolt guns. The Lymans are standard of the industry for competition target. That 48 sight mentioned above is the most predominant. Just because the rifle wears Lymans does not mean it has been cobbled. Look it over good as they may well be installed correctly. Besides, the crude little sight blade on the muzzle of most 1903s is nothing to brag about when compared to better sights. In iron sights on long guns I've used for target shooting, there has never been anything better than target sights. Even the M1 sights are as close to target sights I've ever shot. There are many 1903s on thr market which bring more than $950.00.

March 23, 2019, 10:01 PM

David Lee

Rogue, what is the little cloth canvas piece pictured with the bottom '03?

March 23, 2019, 10:05 PM

David Lee

quote:
Originally posted by lyman:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
I saw a 1903 in a LGS today, someone had put a Lyman peep sight on it and a hooded front sight globe on it...ruining its collectibility (screw holes in the receiver).

They still wanted $950 for it.

was it a NRA rifle ?

common conversion to use in NRA Match Rifle comps back in the day,

those lyman 48's can bring some good change (teh 57's not as much but still bring good money)

Yes. Among the small things I still have are a old new Williams sight and a Lyman 48. The Lyman does not have a eye piece. I have a Palma as well. I think the eye piece from Williams does work on the Lyman. Factory Lyman eye piece can still be had new. The rest of the sight cant.

March 23, 2019, 10:30 PM

SgtGold

quote:
Originally posted by David Lee:
Rogue, what is the little cloth canvas piece pictured with the bottom '03?

It's a muzzle cover.

March 23, 2019, 11:29 PM

wingspar

SgtGold and RogueJSK - Thanks for confirming my link on the stripper clips. I might order some.

March 24, 2019, 10:02 AM

lyman

quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
If it’s a nra rifle is it still worth 950???

I searched the internet and it’s not gonna be a NRA rifle. It’s one someone added Lyman sights and globe front sight to...nothing more. I remember the stacking swivel was stamped and it was a Smith corona and maybe was made in the 40s...I’ll go back on Monday and see for sure.

But I’m not handing over 950for a buggered up 1903

sure,

I sold a similar rifle a couple years ago for $850, buyer was tickled to get it,

it was a 1903A3, OG stamped stock (refurb/rebuild/inspected) C stock, great park job, barrel gauged like new, 48 lyman and lyman 17a type front,
polished bolt,

probably not a NRA sales rifle, but set up by a guy sometime in the past to so Match rifle shooting,

not all are bubba'ed

March 24, 2019, 10:04 AM

lyman

quote:
Originally posted by David Lee:
My area NRA Rep back in New York got a Winchester 1903 in the early years of the Government sales for $12.00. Care to guess what that rifle is valued at today? Many of the 1903s were and still are used in competition. A skilled shooter can score quite well against the Garand, the AR and even those exotic bolt guns. The Lymans are standard of the industry for competition target. That 48 sight mentioned above is the most predominant. Just because the rifle wears Lymans does not mean it has been cobbled. Look it over good as they may well be installed correctly. Besides, the crude little sight blade on the muzzle of most 1903s is nothing to brag about when compared to better sights. In iron sights on long guns I've used for target shooting, there has never been anything better than target sights. Even the M1 sights are as close to target sights I've ever shot. There are many 1903s on thr market which bring more than $950.00.

Winchester 1903 is a semi auto rimfire rifle,, not a bolt action military rifle,

winchester made Carbines and Garands, not the 03 or A3

March 24, 2019, 11:48 AM

RogueJSK

Winchester also made M1917s, which were bolt action USGI rifles contemporary to the M1903. Could have been one of those.

March 24, 2019, 12:07 PM

SgtGold

quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Winchester also made M1917s, which were bolt action USGI rifles contemporary to the M1903. Could have been one of those.

My guess as well. All you have to do is Google 'M1917 Lyman Sight' to see how common it was to modify old milirary rifles back in the day.

March 25, 2019, 10:31 AM

David Lee

quote:
Originally posted by lyman:
quote:
Originally posted by David Lee:
My area NRA Rep back in New York got a Winchester 1903 in the early years of the Government sales for $12.00. Care to guess what that rifle is valued at today? Many of the 1903s were and still are used in competition. A skilled shooter can score quite well against the Garand, the AR and even those exotic bolt guns. The Lymans are standard of the industry for competition target. That 48 sight mentioned above is the most predominant. Just because the rifle wears Lymans does not mean it has been cobbled. Look it over good as they may well be installed correctly. Besides, the crude little sight blade on the muzzle of most 1903s is nothing to brag about when compared to better sights. In iron sights on long guns I've used for target shooting, there has never been anything better than target sights. Even the M1 sights are as close to target sights I've ever shot. There are many 1903s on thr market which bring more than $950.00.

Winchester 1903 is a semi auto rimfire rifle,, not a bolt action military rifle,

winchester made Carbines and Garands, not the 03 or A3

Yes, these I know because I have never seen a '03 Winchester marked. As Rogue posted, it well could have been a M17. Not sure if Winchester made Pattern 14s as I refuse to think too much this morning. I know about the Remington and Eddystone. I do recall Dutch Volk, now deciest, saying he garnered the rifle for $12.00.

March 25, 2019, 10:36 AM

David Lee

quote:
Originally posted by SgtGold:
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Winchester also made M1917s, which were bolt action USGI rifles contemporary to the M1903. Could have been one of those.

My guess as well. All you have to do is Google 'M1917 Lyman Sight' to see how common it was to modify old milirary rifles back in the day.

I had a P14 and was leaning toward sending it to ASquare for large caliber conversion. Im glad I didnt because its a shame to see the rifle altered in such a way. Their cartridges are way over kill for the lower 48 States hunting.

March 25, 2019, 10:39 AM

RogueJSK

quote:
Originally posted by David Lee:
Not sure if Winchester made Pattern 14s as I refuse to think too much this morning. I know about the Remington and Eddystone.

They did. All three manufacturers made both P14s in .303 for the British and M1917s in .30-06 for the Americans.