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It'll be awhile, I'm sure, before it's delivered, but I am expecting an "Expert Grade" {new barrel, new stock) M1 Garand in .308 soon, from the Civilian Marksmanship Program.

This will be my second centerfire rifle. alongside my M1A. Will probably not be shot beyond 100-200 yards.

I'll need some ammo clips, for sure. What should I add to the rifle itself? Maybe a sling? I'm thinking the regular sights should be good for the distances this'll see, but I'm no expert. I have some tools for maintaining the M1A - will I need different tools for the Garand?

As always, your thoughts and ideas are welcomed.
 
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For sure clips and a sling. A nice GI leather one would be great IMO. For that range, iron sights are just fine and certainly not something I would futz with out of the gate.

I love my CMP M1 as does my younger son. It's the best money I have spent on fun for a long time!


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Congratulations! I own a total of five, including three of what were called 'special' when offered by the CMP, two in 308. One was a bit problematic but runs great now. BTW... I bought all of them from the original buyer unfired.

One benefit of getting one in 308 is that they are much more ammo tolerant, so you don't need to look for ammo specially loaded for the Garand. Having said that my first in 308 wouldn't run on Aguila ammo which seems mildly loaded.

I would suggest buying lots of ammo and clips, a nice 1907-style sling, and a tool to clean the chamber. There is/are tools offered that protect the crown of the muzzle from wear from the cleaning rod. Beyond that putting a finish on the stock is highly recommended and very rewarding. Several coats of boiled linseed oil on a lightly sanded stock really makes for a beautiful rifle.

Please post pictures and provide your impressions when you get it, and after you shoot it.
 
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This is bit of a myth. The M1 Garand was designed to fire SAAMI spec 30.06 ammunition. The original M1 ball load was a much stouter load than the M2 ball that was eventually adopted. Any factory 30.06 should be fine out of a properly functioning M1 Garand.

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One benefit of getting one in 308 is that they are much more ammo tolerant, so you don't need to look for ammo specially loaded for the Garand.

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I understand there is a fair amount of controversy about ammo recommended for use in 30.06 Garands. However, according to many reliable sources at least, the difference isn't around the level of peak pressure generated, but about the burning rate of the powder and the amount of pressure that hits the piston on the op rod. Most '06 ammo uses slower burning powder which results in higher gas port pressure than that of which the Garand was designed for. Garand spec ammo uses more medium rate powder, leading to lower port pressure. That is the basis of the recommendation that' 06 Garands should use ammo loaded for the Garand, and not a measurement of peak pressure.

Each shooter is free to rely on their own judgment. Many have shot whatever is on hand with no issues, as I used to do. However, as these historical rifles age and the availability of parts and of capable gunsmiths become more scarce, Garand owners may want to think twice about shooting commercial spec ammo through their 30.06 rifles with their long, spindly op rods.

Just my $. 02, worth what you paid for it.
 
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Thanks for the inputs. Following the threads on delivery/ordering status on the CMP community site, now expecting it'll be a couple months before I hear anything back.

Given the supply is limited, and might possibly run out before I get mine, I guess I'll hold off on ordering clips/sling/tool till I get official word on shipping.
 
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I understand there is a fair amount of controversy about ammo recommended for use in 30.06 Garands. However, according to many reliable sources at least, the difference isn't around the level of peak pressure generated, but about the burning rate of the powder and the amount of pressure that hits the piston on the op rod. Most '06 ammo uses slower burning powder which results in higher gas port pressure than that of which the Garand was designed for. Garand spec ammo uses more medium rate powder, leading to lower port pressure. That is the basis of the recommendation that' 06 Garands should use ammo loaded for the Garand, and not a measurement of peak pressure.

Each shooter is free to rely on their own judgment. Many have shot whatever is on hand with no issues, as I used to do. However, as these historical rifles age and the availability of parts and of capable gunsmiths become more scarce, Garand owners may want to think twice about shooting commercial spec ammo through their 30.06 rifles with their long, spindly op rods.

Just my $. 02, worth what you paid for it.


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This thread is useless without pics…

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I got a CMP email the other day acknowledging the order and confirming I'm in the queue. It's happening! Smile

Sling is in hand, USGI new manufacture, from CMP. I already have .308 ammo but will need clips. Do the standard 30-06 Garand clips work for .308 as well?

I have some gunstock refinishing oil from another project as well as general wood finishing materials and will see what the new-manufacture stock needs when I get it.

RE: tools, for the M1A I already have:

GG&G Chamber Cleaning Tool
Sadlak M1A, M14 USGI Combination Tool
Sadlak M1A, M14 Gas Cylinder Wrench

Will these also work on the .308 M1 or should I be looking for additional tools for routine maintenance?
 
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Do the standard 30-06 Garand clips work for .308 as well?



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RE: tools, for the M1A I already have:

GG&G Chamber Cleaning Tool
Sadlak M1A, M14 USGI Combination Tool
Sadlak M1A, M14 Gas Cylinder Wrench

Will these also work on the .308 M1 or should I be looking for additional tools for routine maintenance?


Only the top one. The Garand combo tool and GC wrench are different.
 
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