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I use a local fur buyer. If they aren’t trapped, the value depends on where you hit them and the damage done. The value for eastern coyotes isn’t great. Between selling tanned fur and selling some green, I’m happy if it covers supplies and ammo for the year.
 
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-- .243 80gr fodder in a 1:10 twist 24" M70V for intermediate ranges

I no longer recall the reasons why, but, from when I was researching what I wanted for a "reach out and touch someone" rifle (I ended-up going .308 Win), I was left with the impression that, if I ever wanted a varmint rifle, I'd probably want it chambered in .243 Win.

Based on what I'm reading here, though, I'd have to give the .22-250 Rem. a serious look.

(TBH: I've no real use for a varmint rifle, other than academic interest.)




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Originally posted by bald1:
-- .243 80gr fodder in a 1:10 twist 24" M70V for intermediate ranges

I no longer recall the reasons why, but, from when I was researching what I wanted for a "reach out and touch someone" rifle (I ended-up going .308 Win), I was left with the impression that, if I ever wanted a varmint rifle, I'd probably want it chambered in .243 Win.

Based on what I'm reading here, though, I'd have to give the .22-250 Rem. a serious look.


Lots of info on the web as well as opinions. Here I agree with most comments about the 243 vs 22-250:
https://www.longrangehunting.c...s-and-coyotes.55466/



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Hopefully this drift will be okay as the OP has decided, but who buys coyote hides?


Almost any coat with a fur trim around the head is made with coyote.

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I think I’m gonna go with a 22-250.

Things to consider with your 22-250....
If you go with factory rifles, the barrels almost always have slow twists -- say, in the 1:10 to 1:12 ballpark. This means that you will be limited to ammo with lighter bullets, generally 55 grains and under. Factory ammo tends to have lighter bullets, so this works.

If you build the rifle from components, a faster twist barrel can be ordered. This requires that you load your own ammo, if you want to capitalize on heavier bullets, with higher BCs.

22-250 doesn't produce much recoil -- just a little more than a 223. I find a report is definitely louder than a 223.

22-250 will erode the barrel's throat much faster than a 223. If you shoot the rifle frequently, and if you shoot extended strings of shots, be prepared for frequent barrel changes. Assuming you want match-grade accuracy, babying the barrel might get you to 2,000 rounds. Push the barrel harder, and 1500 rounds is probably common. Shoot it like you don't care and 1000 rounds could transform it to a tomato stake. Lots of variables, especially your demands on accuracy.

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I feel a 223-chambered bolt action is likely a better choice. You can share ammo with your AR-15s, and you already have experience with the caliber's ballistics. 223 Remy is definitely adequate for coyotes, especially at no more than 300 yards.

My experience with a 223 bolt-action rifle:
223 bolt action accuracy

Picture of the rifle on the previous page of that thread, along with its initial targets. Towards the bottom of page 135.
 
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Granted, I'm comparing a bull bbl Ruger to my AR, but I remember thinking the 22-250 had barely more recoil than my 22lr rifles.

Much, much louder though.




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Just a few things. 1st off, fur prices are way down. I’d expect a FL coyote to be worth not much more than nil, the fur that is.

As a handloader, I can easily take a 22-250 well below 223 speeds, then up to full loads with a good bullet for deer. I’ve hunted in MS & GA, at least for me, 200lb+ ‘dressed’ deer were about never encountered.

I had a custom 22-250 made 10+ years ago. While the stats were being discussed we talked in depth about twist rates. Once it was understood I planned no more that 55 grain bullets for mostly prairie dogging, the well versed smith suggested sticking with the 1/14” common rifling. I thought if I felt the need for 70 grains, the 243 would do.

A last point is bullet selection, another way to match the gun to the application. Most any cartridge can be optimized with a quality bullet for the task at hand.
 
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I love these discussions and the knowledge on this board. Thanks again folks.
 
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Here I agree with most comments about the 243 vs 22-250:
https://www.longrangehunting.c...s-and-coyotes.55466/

Consensus opinion appears to be .243 Win FTW.

I've long felt that, if I got another rifle (I'm more a handgun guy & I don't hunt at all), it would likely be either .243 Win or 6.5mm Creedmoor.




"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
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Originally posted by bald1:
Here I agree with most comments about the 243 vs 22-250:
https://www.longrangehunting.c...s-and-coyotes.55466/

Consensus opinion appears to be .243 Win FTW.

I've long felt that, if I got another rifle (I'm more a handgun guy & I don't hunt at all), it would likely be either .243 Win or 6.5mm Creedmoor.


My dad has a Savage Axis in 243. With a Timney replacement trigger (its a non Accutrigger Axis) it's a nice shooting rifle.




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