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Ruger's new Mini-14, can you say The A-Team?
January 29, 2024, 03:45 PM
patwRuger's new Mini-14, can you say The A-Team?
At that MSRP, it's a pass. While a neat gun, it is not comfortable to shoot with that stock.
January 30, 2024, 12:41 PM
monoblokquote:
Originally posted by fritz:
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Originally posted by CPD SIG:
...unless they fixed the accuracy issues that the Mini’s had for $1800+ I can get / build a super reliable, super accurate AR.
Yep. As I see it, the only strong reason to own a Mini-14 over an AR15 is that the legislative sheepdips in one's area won't allow AR15s.
The sheepdips in
my area won't even allow the Mini for purchase in any of its current forms. So for better or worse, the $1550 or $1800 or whatever this will bloody sell for isn't going to become the usual 1st-world issue in this neck of the woods.
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January 30, 2024, 02:21 PM
RogueJSKquote:
1850.00 retail
I like my Mini well enough, but I would never pay the current going rate of $1100 for a normal one, let alone $1850.
February 01, 2024, 09:32 AM
inspcalahanWell, that's too bad on the price. Ruger will choke on this one. When I heard they were releasing it again in this configuration, I decided I was finally going to get one. Seeing the MSRP, hard pass. Mini's are just "ok" to begin with, certainly not worth hundreds many hundreds more than a quality AR. I'd have been in for maybe $850 plus or minus.
February 01, 2024, 08:30 PM
Dwill104quote:
Originally posted by inspcalahan:
Well, that's too bad on the price. Ruger will choke on this one. When I heard they were releasing it again in this configuration, I decided I was finally going to get one. Seeing the MSRP, hard pass. Mini's are just "ok" to begin with, certainly not worth hundreds many hundreds more than a quality AR. I'd have been in for maybe $850 plus or minus.
Have you see how much regular Mini 14’s cost? A plain blued ranch rifle has a MSRP of $1259.
February 02, 2024, 02:23 PM
ArtieSWow. I have a stainless earlier model (before the ranch receiver). It's an old St. John's County sheriff's gun that I bought used in 2012 or so.
I think I paid $450 for it. Accuracy isn't horrible on mine, but it's not in the class of my Sig AR.
I can't believe they have gotten so expensive, with cheap ARs readily available. I was at the last Orlando gun show, and there was a show special on the Smith & Wesson Sport for $499.
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February 02, 2024, 02:41 PM
92fstechJust got back from a gun show where I saw at least two listed for $1250 and $1450. And they weren't even the good ones, or rare...just the old wood-stocked skinny barrel type. People are nuts.
February 02, 2024, 02:56 PM
casquote:
Originally posted by Alyron:
I have an original GB folder. I bought it for about $600?
The stock is worth close to that now.
February 02, 2024, 05:19 PM
AndybJust saw some show up in the wild for $1388 from Grabagun
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Lt CHEGquote:
Originally posted by Andyb:
Just saw some show up in the wild for $1388 from Grabagun
Is that for this new folding stock model?
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RogueJSKEven then, that's about $500 too high to interest me.
February 02, 2024, 07:43 PM
1KPerDayquote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
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1850.00 retail
I like my Mini well enough, but I would never pay the current going rate of $1100 for a normal one, let alone $1850.
LOL Yeah, I have a 1990's stainless Ranch Rifle (mini with shitty sights) and I love it (mostly because of the A-team but also because of Romancing the Stone, and I love the Garand, M14, and M1 Carbine actions, and the mini is a mix of all three), but I'd never buy one at full MSRP today. You can just get the Sampson stock for like $300 if you already have a Mini-14 or find one in a dumpster behind the pawn shop
https://www.samson-mfg.com/a-t...er-mini-14-copy.html
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February 02, 2024, 07:44 PM
1KPerDayquote:
Originally posted by patw:
At that MSRP, it's a pass. While a neat gun, it is not comfortable to shoot with that stock.
Silly rabbit... you don't shoot these from the shoulder. They're made for 80's hipfire as Mad Murdock intended
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February 02, 2024, 09:24 PM
Andybquote:
Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
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Originally posted by Andyb:
Just saw some show up in the wild for $1388 from Grabagun
Is that for this new folding stock model?
Yes, exact one
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inspcalahanI guess not. Sad, as these rifles are in no way worth that kind of money, unless you live in some silly area where these are legal and normal AR's are not, if that place still exists.
With what it takes to make them, how they operate and their accuracy potential, they should never be worth more than their long standing black rifle competitor, the Colt AR. Those are easily found now from $850-1000 depending on the configuration.
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Originally posted by Dwill104:
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Originally posted by inspcalahan:
Well, that's too bad on the price. Ruger will choke on this one. When I heard they were releasing it again in this configuration, I decided I was finally going to get one. Seeing the MSRP, hard pass. Mini's are just "ok" to begin with, certainly not worth hundreds many hundreds more than a quality AR. I'd have been in for maybe $850 plus or minus.
Have you see how much regular Mini 14’s cost? A plain blued ranch rifle has a MSRP of $1259.
February 02, 2024, 11:09 PM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by inspcalahan:
I guess not. Sad, as these rifles are in no way worth that kind of money...
No, they are not. For less than half the price of what Ruger is now charging for the Mini-14, you can buy a more accurate AR-15, with modularity that the Mini cannot begin to compete. AR-15s don't have bolts that require a fitted firing pin. Optics-mounting options for the AR blow the Mini out of the water. Magazines are far more available and less expensive. The list goes on and on. I own several Minis including a couple of the newer 581 series rifles, but I didn't pay anywhere near what Ruger is asking now.
February 03, 2024, 02:19 PM
Scooter123quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
1850.00 retail
Ruger can blow it out their ass.
I'm inclined to agree. However I expect that Fans of these made up "Special Editions" will claim that they will be worth millions in 20 years. Just like all those darned near infinite Sig Sauer Gun of the Month editions.
I've stopped counting.
February 04, 2024, 12:40 PM
Millironquote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
1850.00 retail
Ruger can blow it out their ass.
That’s for damn sure.
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February 04, 2024, 02:16 PM
pedropcolaNot trying to be "that" guy but how many fans of the A Team can there still be? WE are the guys who watched that show and we are laughing at the price tag, let alone the nearly obsolescent (not really but comparatively) nature of the Mini 14. Especially with that stock.
Is there an underground A Team fan club that I am unaware of? Cool show but not $1850 cool. lol
February 05, 2024, 06:01 PM
1KPerDayquote:
Originally posted by pedropcola:
Not trying to be "that" guy but how many fans of the A Team can there still be? WE are the guys who watched that show and we are laughing at the price tag, let alone the nearly obsolescent (not really but comparatively) nature of the Mini 14. Especially with that stock.
Is there an underground A Team fan club that I am unaware of? Cool show but not $1850 cool. lol
I'm guessing they're betting on the 1970s-80s retro craze that's going through music, cars, motorcycles, AR-15s, etc. I don't think they'll sell many of these at anywhere near MSRP though.
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