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Preferred AR grip
December 23, 2017, 10:17 AM
MrToadPreferred AR grip
I suppose it largely comes down to personal preference, but I'm curious what our illustrious rifle brain trust prefers with regard to a rifle grip in terms of equipment/style. Broomstick-style verical grip? C-Clamp grip? Holding foregrip with thumb at 11 o'clock position?
Just curious.
Quick second question: Have any of you tried something like the chevron sight replacement on your forward sight like this one from
Blitzkrieg Components?
If you like religion, laws or sausage, then you shouldn't watch them being made. December 23, 2017, 11:12 AM
IndianaBoyquote:
Originally posted by MrToad:
I suppose it largely comes down to personal preference, but I'm curious what our illustrious rifle brain trust prefers with regard to a rifle grip in terms of equipment/style. Broomstick-style verical grip? C-Clamp grip? Holding foregrip with thumb at 11 o'clock position?
Just curious.
Quick second question: Have any of you tried something like the chevron sight replacement on your forward sight like this one from
Blitzkrieg Components?
I have tried a bunch of different front sight posts as I used to shoot limited division in 3-gun before they allowed red dots.
The Sightlink fiber optic front sight was the best that I found. A white front sight isn't great if you are shooting at a white target. And if you are shooting at small targets you don't want a huge blob of a front sight. You want a skinny black post, either alone or with a fiber optic dot on top.
December 23, 2017, 11:14 AM
IndianaBoy https://www.opticsplanet.com/s...ront-sight-post.htmlGet the skinniest one they offer.
December 23, 2017, 12:40 PM
RogueJSKI like the so-called "thumb break" grip. Uses a vertical grip as sort of a hand stop for the lower part of the hand, and the rest of the hand is wrapped around the handguard, with the thumb resting at 11 or 12 on top.
Best of all worlds. Thumb on top helps control muzzle climb. C-clampish grip allows for better horizontal control when transitioning targets. And rearward pressure on the foregrip helps further minimize recoil and keep the rifle butt firmly seated in the pocket.
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December 23, 2017, 12:51 PM
casI think the answer is more than personal preference, it's determined by what I'm shooting at, from where and how.
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December 23, 2017, 12:54 PM
Chris17404quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
I like the so-called "thumb break" grip. Uses a vertical grip as sort of a hand stop for the lower part of the hand, and the rest of the hand is wrapped around the handguard, with the thumb resting at 11 or 12 on top.
Best of all worlds. Thumb on top helps control muzzle climb. C-clampish grip allows for better horizontal control when transitioning targets. And rearward pressure on the foregrip helps further minimize recoil and keep the rifle butt firmly seated in the pocket.
This is exactly what I do also. Great description.
December 23, 2017, 12:59 PM
IndianaBoyI don't personally care for forward grips. They get in my way if I am shooting off of a flat surface. Roof of a car, hood of a car, etc.
I generally just hold the handguard, thumb over the top, left index finger pointing at the target.
I don't do the exaggerated, super straight arm thing.
I can't think of a lot of people who know more about shooting a rifle than this guy:
Rather than reinvent the wheel, I like to look at what the best do, try to understand why, and try to emulate that within reason. Same rationale on gripping a handgun properly.
December 23, 2017, 01:05 PM
fritz+1 to IndianaBoy's post.
That's pretty much how I shoot.
December 23, 2017, 02:14 PM
Jus228quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
I like the so-called "thumb break" grip. Uses a vertical grip as sort of a hand stop for the lower part of the hand, and the rest of the hand is wrapped around the handguard, with the thumb resting at 11 or 12 on top.
Best of all worlds. Thumb on top helps control muzzle climb. C-clampish grip allows for better horizontal control when transitioning targets. And rearward pressure on the foregrip helps further minimize recoil and keep the rifle butt firmly seated in the pocket.
This is what I do as well. I use a BCM stubby vertical grip. Works great and is comfortable even with my fucked up hand/wrist.
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December 23, 2017, 02:51 PM
David Wquote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
I like the so-called "thumb break" grip. Uses a vertical grip as sort of a hand stop for the lower part of the hand, and the rest of the hand is wrapped around the handguard, with the thumb resting at 11 or 12 on top.
Best of all worlds. Thumb on top helps control muzzle climb. C-clampish grip allows for better horizontal control when transitioning targets. And rearward pressure on the foregrip helps further minimize recoil and keep the rifle butt firmly seated in the pocket.
+1 I shoot the same way with rifles and SBRs but without the forward grip I shoot like IndianaBoy's post below.
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RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by Jus228:
This is what I do as well. I use a BCM stubby vertical grip.
Same here.
December 24, 2017, 08:32 AM
dewhorsequote:
Originally posted by Chris17404:
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
I like the so-called "thumb break" grip. Uses a vertical grip as sort of a hand stop for the lower part of the hand, and the rest of the hand is wrapped around the handguard, with the thumb resting at 11 or 12 on top.
Best of all worlds. Thumb on top helps control muzzle climb. C-clampish grip allows for better horizontal control when transitioning targets. And rearward pressure on the foregrip helps further minimize recoil and keep the rifle butt firmly seated in the pocket.
This is exactly what I do also. Great description.
Same here....I have gone as far as just using the small hand stops....especially on hunting ARs and SBRs
For the actual grip...plain ol'MagPul or their K2
December 24, 2017, 02:25 PM
RHINOWSOquote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
I like the so-called "thumb break" grip. Uses a vertical grip as sort of a hand stop for the lower part of the hand, and the rest of the hand is wrapped around the handguard, with the thumb resting at 11 or 12 on top.
Best of all worlds. Thumb on top helps control muzzle climb. C-clampish grip allows for better horizontal control when transitioning targets. And rearward pressure on the foregrip helps further minimize recoil and keep the rifle butt firmly seated in the pocket.
Similar to this:
Pretty much this as well.
I like BCM VFG and pistol grips, very comfortable.
December 24, 2017, 05:03 PM
MrToadMany thanks for all the great insight here, gentlemen. This will give me plenty to mull over and an excuse to maybe do some research shopping.

If you like religion, laws or sausage, then you shouldn't watch them being made. December 26, 2017, 12:46 PM
98XJRCFor firing hand I prefer the BCM. As far as support had I use what was the Lanco Tactical Gripstop. B5 Systems bought the design and are now still producing them as the Gripstop. It’s a radiused hand stop and allows for a comfortable grip with a high thumb hold. Also works great on barriers.
December 28, 2017, 01:54 PM
matthew03quote:
Originally posted by Jus228:
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
I like the so-called "thumb break" grip. Uses a vertical grip as sort of a hand stop for the lower part of the hand, and the rest of the hand is wrapped around the handguard, with the thumb resting at 11 or 12 on top.
Best of all worlds. Thumb on top helps control muzzle climb. C-clampish grip allows for better horizontal control when transitioning targets. And rearward pressure on the foregrip helps further minimize recoil and keep the rifle butt firmly seated in the pocket.
This is what I do as well. I use a BCM stubby vertical grip. Works great and is comfortable even with my fucked up hand/wrist.
I do as well, but I prefer a slanted forward grip like the Fortis. I have the full size Fortis on my DDM4V7 16" and the smaller Fortis hand stop on my 9" BCM .300 Black.
December 29, 2017, 11:56 AM
Sammaelquote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
RogueJSK: What rail and light are you running on this one?
January 02, 2018, 05:09 PM
matthew03I don't know about the rail, but the light is an Inforce. I have the Gen. 2 and it throws a wide beam, 400 lumens.
Some consider them fragile, but I've had no issues with mine; I'm not super rough on gear.
January 02, 2018, 05:23 PM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by Sammael:
RogueJSK: What rail and light are you running on this one?
That's a Troy Delta VTAC rail. It's a drop-in free float replacement for standard carbines with delta ring and fixed front sight base.
The light is a HSP edition Inforce WML light on a Impact Weapons Components Thorntail 1913 offset mount.
Inforce also has the WMLx, which is larger and brighter, as seen on the pic of my Thin Blue Line AR.
They're a great option for long gun lights. And Inforce just came out with Gen 2 versions of their WML and WMLx lights, which have some tweaks and improvements, and are supposed to be even better.