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22 NRL matches?

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January 29, 2021, 08:53 AM
mike56
22 NRL matches?
Anyone try it? I went to their site and watched a couple video matches. Seems kinda cool without the whole PRS expense.
January 29, 2021, 12:03 PM
offgrid
quote:
Originally posted by mike56:
Anyone try it? I went to their site and watched a couple video matches. Seems kinda cool without the whole PRS expense.


Been shooting "NRL/PRS" style 22 matches for several years. Ton O' fun!

We just call them 22 matches. The match directors don't want any part of the NRL guidelines, do their own thing, set up stages based on our feedback.
January 31, 2021, 09:27 PM
captain127
They are fun, I don’t shoot very well but still enjoy them ( while some people spring for very expensive equipment a decently set up off the shelf rifle suitable for NRL22 base class can be put together including glass for under $700)
Not sure where in Arizona you are but I am involved in a small group that attends a match hosted monthly at gunsite in paulden. In the Phoenix area several clubs run matches as well. Most allow non nrl22 members to shoot.
March 02, 2021, 08:33 PM
Riley
Bump.

I’m thinking about trying this. Either picking up another CZ or putting a .22 barrel on my current CZ.

Just need more appropriate glass.




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March 03, 2021, 07:49 AM
offgrid
quote:
Originally posted by Riley:
Bump.

I’m thinking about trying this. Either picking up another CZ or putting a .22 barrel on my current CZ.

Just need more appropriate glass.


What stock or chassis do you have? Big deal having a stock that fits you, especially cheek hieght. Cheek hieght is important to maintain POA/POI. When shooting positional even that much more. Having a grip closer to vertical also a good thing.

"NRL" matches or any steel match for that matter is not about shooting groups, it's about hitting a target, maintaining POA/POI! In the other 22 thread there's a couple group targets. As good as those groups are... all misses on the last few targets on a 50yd KYL rack Wink Dot drills are a great way to practice POA/POI.

Going to your first match don't worry about gear, bags... You'll see what the best shooters are using, most likely they'll let you use their stuff. I only use a GameChanger bag for rear bag prone, positional support, under my ankle... I'm in the less is better, less is faster camp.
March 04, 2021, 02:13 PM
Riley
I just have the stock CZ 455 Varmint 20” heavy barrel and wood stock with straight comb.




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March 04, 2021, 02:18 PM
Riley
Ideally I’d find a 40x that jelrod1 built but I’m trying to stay at a much lower budget level.




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March 05, 2021, 08:34 AM
offgrid
quote:
Originally posted by Riley:
I just have the stock CZ 455 Varmint 20” heavy barrel and wood stock with straight comb.



The point of my ramblings is instead of another CZ or re-barreling, drop the one you have in a chassis. XLR, MPA...
March 06, 2021, 06:38 PM
Riley
Okay, that makes sense. Thank you.

I'm at a crossroads though as my current CZ is in .17HMR and would need to be re-barreled to a .22 LR, which isn't bad with a factory barrel. However, as my CZ 455 is discontinued, that kicks me out of base class because no current MSRP can be verified. The idea being to be cheaper and easier to get into and find places to shoot vs. a full-size rifle setup in 6.5 Creedmoor.




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Expectations are premeditated disappointments.
March 08, 2021, 10:58 PM
VictimNoMore
I shoot NRL-type matches with a Ruger Precision Rimfire and a Vortex 6-24 scope. Good ammo is critical.
Shooting these matches has improved my shooting tremendously. Before, it was all about speed (Steel Challenge, my first love). NRL-22 has improved my accuracy and consistency.
And, it’s just a hoot.
March 09, 2021, 09:23 AM
Sig Marine
quote:
Originally posted by offgrid:
We just call them 22 matches. The match directors don't want any part of the NRL guidelines, do their own thing, set up stages based on our feedback.


I run the Precision Rifle and RIMFIRE matches at our range and was approached by several shooters and the NRL about doing the their matches; I declined for the same reason "OFFGRID" states.

The NRL's attempt to standardize the matches so shooters compete on an even playing field is good in theory, bad in application. While the targets, distances, props are the same, i.e. the COF is alike, the simple fact is that ranges are not the same. Our range, at times, can experience full value winds of 10-20 mph making shooting a .22 very challenging thus scores being compared to someone shooting at a range that has little to no wind is not equal/fair when comparing scores.

Another reason I avoided them is the NRL posts the COF (Course Of Fire) a few weeks in advance. This allows shooters to "practice" the COF beforehand and allows them the opportunity to figure out a way, if possible, to "game" the stage.

As "OFFGRID" states, some of us designing and running matches prefer challenging shooters beyond what the NRL does and do it in real time making shooters adapt and think through their COF without practice or planning ahead. My matches consist of timed shooting fundamental skill drills at 25 and 50 yards, steel games like KYL (Know Your Limits) and TYL (Test Your Limits) at 50 yards with plates from 2" down to 1/4". Then I do stages where shooters engage steel at 100 yards to 225 yards shot from tripods, tank traps, barricades, barrels, buckets, tires, ladders, ropes and other implements found around the range. The NRL does not do this.

To help me get intel, I have a debrief at the conclusion of each match to get feedback from the shooters on what they liked or disliked about the match and what they would like to see that would help them become better shooters.

BTW, shooting a .22 at 225 yards is like shooting a centerfire rifle 800-1000 yards; it's a challenge...especially on those 10-20 mph wind days.


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