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The article has a history of the primitive night vision scopes associated with the M1 Carbine, but it also mentions the WWII German Army’s use of the IR sight nicknamed Vampire.

Stephen Hunter used both as major “props” in two fine books. In “Black Light,” Bob Lee Swagger searches the past to reveal who killed his State Trooper dad Earl circa 1955 using one of these devices on a T3 Carbine:

https://www.amazon.com/Black-L...003YJEZO6/ref=sr_1_5

In “The Master Sniper” (not featuring any of the Swagger family), a WWII US Army officer hunts for a German sniper carrying a Vampir scope.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/prod...hsch_vapi_taft_p2_i3
 
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The Germans had been developing infrared night vision optics since the 1930s, and eventually employed primitive infrared night vision scopes at the tail end of WW2, though the technology was still in field trials when the war ended and was never very widespread.

The Zielgerät 1229 "Vampir" scope was used on the MP44. It consisted of an IR illuminator paired with an IR scope, powered by a large battery pack carried on the soldier's back. A few hundred were produced and fielded in the final months of the war.



A larger version, the Fahrgerät 1250, was used on Panther tanks:


As well as on Sd.Kfz. 251 halftracks:


They also fitted some Sd.Kfz. 251 halftracks with even larger IR spotlights, for use as longer-ranged spotters/illuminators in conjunction with the two above vehicles:



And they had experimented with equipping some Marder II self-propelled anti-tank guns with ZG 1221 infrared optics:

 
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Thanks for posting RogueJSK! I knew about the Vampir but was not aware they adapted some versions to vehicles. I learned something! lol


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Thanks for posting RogueJSK!


Yes, as always, and thanks to Sigmund for the original.




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The Brits had also experimented with mounting IR optics on rifles during WW2, but it never made it out of the testing phase. Here's an early IR illuminator and scope attached to a Sten Gun:




The Soviets likewise experimented with IR optics during WW2, although I can't find any evidence of them attaching them to guns. They were primarily interested in IR optics to allow their tanks to drive at night, and had this interesting experimental setup rigged to a BT-7 tank, with IR headlights and an IR periscope headset:


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In 1989 a good friend showed up at my house with a wooden box. He knew I was an electronics tech and asked if I could "get something working" for him. Out of the box he pulled out an IR sighting system as shown in the AR article above.
A little wiring and wizardry later I had it functioning, but it needed more work and the project fell to the wayside in favor of life and we both forgot about it. After his death years later I remembered I still had the damn thing!
It's the model shown in the pic below:

Mine was made in 1952. I've thought about selling it but coming up with a value has been difficult.
It's a super-cool piece of military history though!
 
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That's a later M3 carbine, which was the formally adopted and standardized Korean War-era version of the earlier experimental T3 carbine discussed in the OP's article. It was used not only by US forces in Korea, but also by Australian forces too:



The earlier experimental T3 was slightly different from its later standardized M3 iteration. Here's a T3:


 
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Amazing.

Thanks for posting all of those.
 
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Originally posted by Dakota Slim:
In 1989 a good friend showed up at my house with a wooden box. He knew I was an electronics tech and asked if I could "get something working" for him. Out of the box he pulled out an IR sighting system as shown in the AR article above.
A little wiring and wizardry later I had it functioning, but it needed more work and the project fell to the wayside in favor of life and we both forgot about it. After his death years later I remembered I still had the damn thing!
It's the model shown in the pic below:

Mine was made in 1952. I've thought about selling it but coming up with a value has been difficult.
It's a super-cool piece of military history though!



sold a couple over the years, and always a slow sell,


last one I sold was maybe 5 yrs ago, complete less rifle (basically a box like you have in the pic)

no idea if it worked, and wanna say we got $600 for it,

it did have the mount in the box,



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Originally posted by Dakota Slim:
In 1989 a good friend showed up at my house with a wooden box. He knew I was an electronics tech and asked if I could "get something working" for him. Out of the box he pulled out an IR sighting system as shown in the AR article above.
A little wiring and wizardry later I had it functioning, but it needed more work and the project fell to the wayside in favor of life and we both forgot about it. After his death years later I remembered I still had the damn thing!
It's the model shown in the pic below:

Mine was made in 1952. I've thought about selling it but coming up with a value has been difficult.
It's a super-cool piece of military history though!



sold a couple over the years, and always a slow sell,


last one I sold was maybe 5 yrs ago, complete less rifle (basically a box like you have in the pic)

no idea if it worked, and wanna say we got $600 for it,

it did have the mount in the box,


Appreciate the info! Thanks!
 
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