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Nullus Anxietas |
A buddy spotted this behind the counter at a a LGS & range last week: Kel-Tec SUB2000 (Gen. 2) It seems kind of cool, and possibly quite handy. Anybody here with any experience with them?This message has been edited. Last edited by: ensigmatic, "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | ||
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Trigger isn't target quality but they run well, shoot straight, super compact, and use relatively inexpensive easy to find Glock 33rd mags. | |||
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Mine has been out a couple of times....cool little gun. I picked mine up for under $400. Mine runs Glock 17 mags. Works as advertised. I installed a few M*Carbo upgrade parts....e.g., recoilless/weighted bolt handle, recoil spring tube sleeve, recoil spring buffer, compensator. Like I said, pretty cool. Just saw that M*Carbo is offering version that has been tricked out with their upgrades directly at the kel-tec factory. $725 and done. https://www.mcarbo.com/kel-tec...-2-9mm-for-sale.aspx M*Carbo upgrade parts are the real deal.This message has been edited. Last edited by: x0225095, 0:01 | |||
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Not really from Vienna |
Pro tip: don’t let your long, flowing beard get caught in the operating handle. | |||
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I'd pay good money to watch that video. | |||
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| You're going to feel a little pressure... |
Mine is a Gen 1. I like it. The ability to tart it up with Mlok stuff is a useful change. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
I have one that takes Beretta magazines and my Dad has one that takes Glock mags. Both are 9mm I love it, it's a cool little carbine and shoots pretty well for me. Added an extended (two-finger) charging handle from MCARBO that made a huge difference and currently have a red dot scope on it that sits above the iron sights. If I could find any fault with it, it would be the stock iron sights which are too low for me and force me to get an awkward and slightly uncomfortable cheek weld. With a riser and the red dot, that issue is gone. | |||
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Certified All Positions |
Could you please be more specific in the title of your thread? Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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Man of few words |
I'm not sure what improvements were made on the 2nd gen; but I have a 1st gen that takes Glock mags and I love it. I have a CZ Scorpion as well and have left the CZ in the safe ever since I bought the Kel Tec. I've fired about 500 - 600 rounds through it and have had 0 issues at all.  | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven! |
I’m confused here. You state you have a Gen 1 but your picture clearly shows a Gen 2? | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven! |
Here is my 9mm Beretta magazine version. I love the OD green:  | |||
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| That rug really tied the room together.  |
I have have the first gen that takes Smith 5906 mags (since converted to P226 mags) It's cool. Don't really use it for anything. But it's cool. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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| Man of few words |
If it's a gen 2 I had no no idea; I just assumed it was a gen 1. I bought it a year ago. What is the difference between 1 and 2? | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven! |
Gen 1 was pre-2015 or so and looked a little different than Gen 2, things like no Picatinny rails, etc  | |||
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| Nullus Anxietas |
Asked this primarily for my buddy's benefit, as he's interested in one. (Don't recall what his intended use was.) I think they're cool, and it'd be neat to have one based on that, alone, but I have other firearm priorities that are well ahead of it. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Thank you for clarifying PASig. Sorry for hijacking your thread ensigmatic. I think I paid $430 for mine and the Glock mags are around $30 - $35. The rifle is fun to shoot, folds up pretty small and I don't have to baby it like I do my USC because I didn't pay a lot for it. My friend HATES it but that makes me like it even more  | |||
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It sort of reminds me of "The Linda" (updated for the 21st century) or maybe a grown up survival 22 ... I don't see how anyone could prefer it over a Scorpion ... I've yet found any KelTec that didn't feel cheap and un-finished ... What's the attraction? If you really want something you'll find a way ... ... if you don't you'll find an excuse. I'm really not a "kid" anymore ... but I haven't grown up yet either  | |||
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Folded, they'll fit in very non-tactical appearing computer notebook carrying cases.
Well, one of the attractions is, posting about your own KelTec baits in Keltec-haters like wearing a MAGA hat in Starbucks baits the commies. ( Just sayin', don' mean nuthin'mean,  )____________________ | |||
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| Man of few words |
Perhaps not everyone dislikes Kel-Tec like you  | |||
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| I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I am not |
gen 2 has two picatinny rails top and bottom and mlok on the sides. threaded barrel for a suppressor!!! Be aware that there was a recall on gen 2's because of a improperly heatr rtreated barrel. so check with the company and make sure that it isnt one covered on the recall. I had to send mine back before I ever fired a round. I found a package deal on mcarbo parts and upgrafed everything. The biggest upgrade would be the trigger and the metal trigger guard. I will be putting some rounds through it this summer and we will see how the accuarcy is!!! | |||
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