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There is no good cartridge to miss your target with. If it won't make a hole in a wall, it won't make a hole in a man, either. Plain old 55 FMJ, or (mentioned in another post) a "varmint" loading expressly designed to bust up in a small target, is probably as good as you'll get in .223.

Have you considered a carbine in 5.7x28 FN? This round, running roughly a little more than .22 WMR velocity from a 16-inch rifle and originally made for the FN P90 and Five Seven, was designed to partially address this concern. Nobody is going to want to stand in front of a 40-grain ballistic tip or the even lighter 35- and 27-grain HPs. A good deal less noise and recoil than .223, and is flat-shooting - a 50-yard zero hits in almost the same place at 100. Fiocchi "Defense Dynamics" or FN with 40-grain ballistic tips are ~65-75 cents a shot. Fiocchi "Range Dynamics" (target/practice) FMJs are a little less. The aforementioned lighter HP bullets are over a dollar.

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Assume your rifle is 223 not 556 and 1/7 to 1/9 twist ?

All of the above are great choices.

My home defense rifle is a suppressed 13.7 556 1/7. 1st mag is 62tsx grain solid copper and I’m praying they are not wearing serious armor
 
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Originally posted by parabellum:
The Gold Dots and the Fusion are excellent choices, as is Winchester's Ranger line, but supplement these expensive rounds with lots of M193. Winchester and IMI make very good M193.

A man could get by just fine on M193 alone. It's what's loaded in my home defense AR. M193 is capable of defeating some body armor.


I have thousands of these. I just want HD rounds that (mostly) stay in the bad guy, or don't keep going through walls if I miss.



If you miss even a .22lr is gonna go through more than a few walls, let alone a 5.56/.223
 
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There's no such thing as a magic bullet that will penetrate into bad guys sufficiently to incapacitate but that won't penetrate through residential walls (which are effectively made from paper, chalk, and glue...)
 
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Then stay away from rounds that are designed to stay together like bonded bullets and M855 type rounds.

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
I need to buy a few boxes of proper defensive .223 ammo. Never worried about it in the past, but my rural area is gaining houses at a rapid rate, and overpenetration is now officially a thing.

I haven't researched this yet, but the last time I did so was probably 15 years ago, and I am sure things have changed.

Please let me know your recommendations, or what your agency is using.

I am less concerned with long range accuracy or "stopping power," than I am with overpenetration through both walls and bad guys.

Thanks for sharing your expertise.

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