Hello guys,

I took a short video through the optic to show how well this little digital scope performs on the AR15 platform.

Gun is a WOA upper 1/8 twist on a Aero Precision lower. Ranges are from 400-600yds with my hand load of 77gr SMK over 23.5gr Varget.

Quality of what you see through the scope is much better to the naked eye. Downloading and uploading compresses the image quality. The little scope makes it easy to get hits at distance.

There are no edits here, just raw range footage.

https://youtu.be/fC7npEo9D34?si=C85e0vjjGNs3FOnO

https://youtu.be/95Q8g9GK_z0?si=Ypj5tbeDiIRvoMXC





10 shot 100yd group.

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Impressive! Thanks for sharing the video.

That's good shooting.

An interesting optic. The images are not all that good -- it's too bad the video doesn't present what you state your eyes see. But I still doubt the clarity matches that of glass at a similar price, especially at higher magnification.

I assume the reticle chosen is mil-based, given the MRAD info in your display. The reticle really lacks clarity in the videio. Does the optic "dial" that elevation for you, given that you used the rangefinder for distance? How about windage -- you dial or hold off via reticle?

What sizes are the yellow plates? I'm guessing around 8x10" at 400, 10x12" at 500, and 12x14" at 600.

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Originally posted by fritz:
That's good shooting.

An interesting optic. The images are not all that good -- it's too bad the video doesn't present what you state your eyes see. But I still doubt the clarity matches that of glass at a similar price, especially at higher magnification.

I assume the reticle chosen is mil-based, given the MRAD info in your display. The reticle really lacks clarity in the videio. Does the optic "dial" that elevation for you, given that you used the rangefinder for distance? How about windage -- you dial or hold off via reticle?

What sizes are the yellow plates? I'm guessing around 8x10" at 400, 10x12" at 500, and 12x14" at 600.

Thank you.

You are correct. The image is not as good as a traditional scope. There are 4K models and a newer 8k model was just announced by NOCPIX. The image quality is still very impressive in real time. You really have to look through one. My second video posted above shows better clarity at the lower power ranges.

The advantage is this optic also gives you night vision with a built in IR, 8 different reticles (FFP, SFP, MOA OR MRAD…your choice), LRF, 5 colors for the reticle, ballistics calculator, and many other features all for less than $600. A traditional scope could never do what this one does.

The reticle is very clear when using the optic and will dial for you or give you a holdover box. When you range the target, it moves the reticle and you just allow for wind.

Targets at 400 and 500 were 6x10 silhouettes and the 600yd target is 9.5x12. The image may look grainy over YouTube but I assure you it is not in person. Shooting those small targets is too easy with the optic and having a nice shooting gun works as well…lol.

Yes, nice shooting.

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Originally posted by fritz:
The images are not all that good -- it's too bad the video doesn't present what you state your eyes see.

The Youtube video is only 480p, which is 640x480 resolution... same as an old school late-1980s to CRT computer monitor. (Not to mention any compression artifacts further degrading the video quality.)

Whereas this digital scope's native resolution is 1080p, which is 1920×1080. That's like a modern HD TV.

There are even newer version of the scope in 4k or 8K resolution, which are 3840×2160 or 7680×4320. That's like a higher end modern Ultra HD TV.

So the scope will literally be at least 3x clearer/more detailed in real life than what is displayed in that compressed and lower resolution Youtube video, and the newer 4K/8K versions of the scope will be anywhere from 6x to 12x clearer/more detailed.

I suppose I need to have my own eyes behind the scope. I do believe that digital is the wave of the future for optics. Visible, IR, UV light. Multiple reticle options. Multiple reticle illumination options. LRF integrated with ballistics calculators. Seamless magnification. When the optical quality rivals ED glass, the possibilities will be amazing. Windage will still be an issue -- one that requires shooter experience. I my neck of the woods, the rare and easy competition days occur when we can actually place the reticle on the plate when we break the shot. Where I practice, just about the only time I'm holding on-plate is when the winds are from my 6 o'clock or 12 o'clock. The worst winds I've shot matches were in Wyoming. On some long-distance stages, I used up the entire horizontal reticle for windage -- POA was at the very left or right edges of the scope. In such instances, I dialed 10-15-20 MOA of windage, then held a minimal amount. Of course if one doesn't reset the windage between stages, the results are....bad.

I first experienced through-scope video in a Rifles Only advanced precision course, many moons ago. The instructor had a device which attached to the ocular lens and sent the image via cables to a PC. The image to our eyes was on slightly affected (not quite as crisp), but the image on the laptop was amazing. The instructor hooked up the through-scope video system to an AR15 and a 308 bolt action rifle. The exercise revealed how well the students and instructors managed recoil. The goal was to have virtually no reticle movement during the entire recoil cycle. Minimal reticle movement improves accuracy and allows the shooter to better spot his own shots. The goal in our course was to have the reticle move no more than 1 MOA off POA.

Now I must state that your shooting is good at all distances, and therefore reticle movement during the recoil cycle may not be affecting your accuracy very much. Assuming I'm reading the video & reticle correctly, I see roughly 2-3 mils reticle movement to the left during recoil.

For my shooting, I learned that the direction of reticle movement during the recoil cycle almost always coincides with the direct of pulling a shot -- when shot from a stable position, such as prone or bench. Shooting sorta-kinda free recoil from poorly-supported or wobbly barrier is a different topic. When my reticle remains dead solid on POA, I absolutely know that any surprises on POI is due to ammo/barrel or environment.

When the reticle remains absolutely still during the entire recoil cycle, it's very easy to spot the actual impact on steel. Most shooters break a shot, the reticle bounces around, the reticle stabilizes back on POA, and the shooter then states that he sees the impact. This works with a reactive target, especially when the shot strips paint. I learned the hard way that doesn't work in matches such as the Steel Safari -- where the plates are never painted and have been hammered by hundreds of impacts. A stable reticle means that your eye is on target before the bullet impacts, and you see it splatter. If atmospheric conditions are proper and the shooter is willing to look above the target, the shooter can see the gray blur of the bullet's trace as it gracefully curves into the plate. All this occurs in a very short time span, as high-velocity loads initially fly each 100 yards in roughly .1 second.

I remember major milestones in spotting my impacts. Spotting impacts at 500 yards with a 308, then progressively closer. On good days, 200 yards isn't out of the question with a 308. And it's much easier with a 6.5CM or 6CM. 6BR is child's play. I rarely shoot steel closer than 200 yards with centerfire rifles, but on my very best days, seeing the bullet actually hit the plate 100 yards is doable. I've even done it a few times at 50-75 yards with a 223.