Opinions other than build your own cheaper?

Meh.

Now that the gloves are off... look at Palmetto State Armory's offerings, either complete, or (dare I say) building one piecemeal. You'll have plenty of cash left over for decent optics, BUIS, a sling, and a few mags.

If you read the official NRA / SA, Inc advertising circular (formerly known as the magazine American Rifleman) you can find out how SA, Inc has revolutionized rifles by inventing from scratch this lightweight, magazine fed, gas operated, air cooled, shoulder fired weapon. It uses space age aluminum and polymer components and an innovative 5.56mm cartridge the likes of which have never been seen. Offering this modern wonder as a pistol version is even that much more mindblowing, I mean how do these guys continually amaze with their innovation?

Smart assery off, as said above you can do better or at least the same for less. There is nothing different about the saint other than the SA Inc hype. Ask any Illinois gun dealer or owner their opinion before you buy for a more detailed review.

Nice looking rifle but their shenanigans in Illinois has turned me off on Springfield Armory. There are better options out there and without their abhorrent politics.

They were listed as crap, but they hope peeps will forget same...

Personally I wouldn't go shorter than 10.3 with an AR pistol in 223/5.56


Velocity falls way off and muzzle blast goes way up.

I went with an 11.5 on my pistol build. Probably would have been just as happy with a 10.3. It gets shot with a can in place 99% of the time.


I don't even know what the Saint pistol is retailing for, but it is probably too much.

ETA:

$856 at Bud's. Pass.

http://palmettostatearmory.com...h-can-516447012.html


http://palmettostatearmory.com...ine-black-42838.html



And that's not, "Build your own." That's, "Clip this upper on this lower."

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Originally posted by IndianaBoy:
ETA:

$856 at Bud's. Pass.

http://palmettostatearmory.com...h-can-516447012.html


http://palmettostatearmory.com...ine-black-42838.html



And that's not, "Build your own." That's, "Clip this upper on this lower."

That comes in at $539. The $317 difference would buy a thousand rounds of ammo to train with.

I'm really considering going with a PSA AR pistol kit for one of my lowers.

I think I'm going to pick up the Edge version. It hits all of the cosmetic and functional notes I'm looking for in an AR pistol.

https://www.springfield-armory...e-ar-15-pistol-5-56/

I've been pleased with the stuff I've gotten from PSA.
I'll be going with one of their pistol kits with an 80% lower.
Most likely this one as I don't need sights
https://palmettostatearmory.co...sba3-pistol-kit.html

I don't know about other states, but in Michigan the lower has to be registered as a pistol lower. You can put a rifle upper on a pistol lower, but not a pistol upper on a rifle lower. And by the way, I have a PSA 7.5 and it's fun. Have just over four hundred into it without the optic.

When I buy a lower they ask if it's for a pistol or rifle.
It's not registered here, just the normal FFL transfer. But it is sold as either a pistol or rifle lower and not marked as such.
Same thing though, once bought as a "pistol" it's always a pistol even though it's not marked.

Does it have grip zone and are there women in yoga pants firing it in commercials?

quote:

Originally posted by powermad:
When I buy a lower they ask if it's for a pistol or rifle.
It's not registered here, just the normal FFL transfer. But it is sold as either a pistol or rifle lower and not marked as such.
Same thing though, once bought as a "pistol" it's always a pistol even though it's not marked.

Unless Oregon has some funky law requiring that, your FFL is doing it wrong.

Per the ATF, AR lower receivers should be recorded and transferred by your FFL as an "Other Firearm (frame, receiver, etc.)" on the 4473.

They are neither a pistol nor a long gun, and there is no federal requirement to declare an intention to build it as one or the other at the time of purchase/transfer.