Hello SF brain trust!

Last year I went hunting with my Savage 110. On our way to our hunting spot, my rifle was muzzle-up in the back seat and it shifted over to the back door. When my cousin opened the door, he didn't check to make sure the rifles would not fall out. My rifle fell out of the Jeep, muzzle first, into the gravel below.

I took it with a grain of salt. The barrel was a used 30-06 barrel that I paid $50 to purchase with installation. I had my trusty M25 (scoped M14) as a backup gun and I was really just looking for a reason to use it on that trip.

Since then, I purchased a new 5R barrel, threaded, for my Savage 110. I paid an obscene amount of money for that barrel. I'll eventually run a suppressor, but until then, I'd like to screw on a muzzle device of some sort to protect the crown, if something like that should ever happen again.

Since it's for hunting, I'd like something that won't blow my ears out like a brake would. I've never shot a rifle with a brake without hearing protection.

Suggestions?

What is the thread pitch?

Just get a thread protector of your liking or have one custom made.

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Originally posted by kilyung:
Just get a thread protector of your liking or have one custom made.

I think he wants some muzzle device out in front to protect the crown if this rifle ever takes a spill.


It is a nice feature of a typical AR. You can set them muzzle down on a hard surface with no worry about damaging the barrel, whereas a thread protector won't protect the crown.

I'll assume, being 30 cal, that the thread pitch will be 5/8-24. I ordered the barrel from Benchmark Barrels.

Tony.

http://chingchongchangtactical...pi-with-crush-washer



http://chingchongchangtactical...rush-washer-included

Consider adding a pair of Howard Leight electronic ear pro.


Even single shots taken while hunting will add to the cumulative effects of hearing damage over the years, regardless of muzzle device.

I wear foamie plugs or electronic ear pro when I shoot my suppressed rifles. I wear both when I shoot my 3-gun rifle.

Or get one of these:

https://www.jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPRE-324B


If you miss a shot on a deer, all will be well because the deer will have a heart attack due to the sudden loud noise.

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Originally posted by benny6:
Since it's for hunting, I'd like something that won't blow my ears out like a brake would. I've never shot a rifle with a brake without hearing protection.

Honestly, brakes are horrible for people around the shooter, but they don't make things much worse for the person behind the rifle.

Crush washers are the devil. Either get a muzzle device that doesn't require timing (i.e., is fully radially symmetric) or use a peel washer or shim kit.

I'll agree with the other people advising you to wear ear protection while hunting, though.

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Originally posted by maladat:

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Originally posted by benny6:
Since it's for hunting, I'd like something that won't blow my ears out like a brake would. I've never shot a rifle with a brake without hearing protection.

Honestly, brakes are horrible for people around the shooter, but they don't make things much worse for the person behind the rifle.

Crush washers are the devil. Either get a muzzle device that doesn't require timing (i.e., is fully radially symmetric) or use a peel washer or shim kit.

I'll agree with the other people advising you to wear ear protection while hunting, though.

Having used both, I'll never use a damn peel washer again. What an enormous pain in the ass.

Shim kits from AAC for me.

I agree with IndianaBoy that a no-frills flash hider will be your least costly crown protector.

Brakes are very effective at reducing recoil, and at making the gun louder for everyone. Including the shooter. JP's brakes are very effective, which means loud. My APA brakes are very effective, which means they are loud.

I wear plugs and muffs when my brakes are installed. Suppressors are so much more civilized, but they don't reduce recoil quite as well as a good brake.

Another way would be with a standard thread protector AND something like a Garand muzzle cover.



That should protect the crown in case of a fall and is easily removable.

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Originally posted by maladat:

Honestly, brakes are horrible for people around the shooter, but they don't make things much worse for the person behind the rifle.

couldn't disagree more.

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Originally posted by IndianaBoy:
Having used both, I'll never use a damn peel washer again. What an enormous pain in the ass.

Shim kits from AAC for me.

I agree shim kits are better than peel washers, but I'll take either over crush washers.

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Originally posted by fritz:
Brakes are very effective at reducing recoil, and at making the gun louder for everyone. Including the shooter.

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Originally posted by YellowJacket:

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Originally posted by maladat:

Honestly, brakes are horrible for people around the shooter, but they don't make things much worse for the person behind the rifle.

couldn't disagree more.

I guess I'm wrong. Maybe the few brakes I have experience with just aren't very good.

Thanks for the input. Maybe a birdcage will be the ticket.

The barrel will be stainless, so I was thinking maybe a stainless birdcage or an extension that follows the barrel contour and has ports in it.

Maybe something like these...


Or a set from Ruger like this...


Will the ported ones add any more noise for the shooter?

Tony.

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Originally posted by maladat:

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Originally posted by IndianaBoy:
Having used both, I'll never use a damn peel washer again. What an enormous pain in the ass.

Shim kits from AAC for me.

I agree shim kits are better than peel washers, but I'll take either over crush washers.

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Originally posted by fritz:
Brakes are very effective at reducing recoil, and at making the gun louder for everyone. Including the shooter.

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Originally posted by YellowJacket:

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Originally posted by maladat:

Honestly, brakes are horrible for people around the shooter, but they don't make things much worse for the person behind the rifle.

couldn't disagree more.

I guess I'm wrong. Maybe the few brakes I have experience with just aren't very good.

well there's no wrong necessarily. The ones I've shot we're notcliceably louder to the shooter even wearing plugs and or muffs. I've killed a few truck loads of deer and never worn plugs when deer hunting. I did that one time with a braked 7 mm RM and that made my mind up for me.

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Originally posted by benny6:
Will the ported ones add any more noise for the shooter?

The ports will almost certainly increase noise to you and to those near you. Every port system is different, so the noise level increase could be anywhere from from insignificant to quite noticeable.

Thanks. Well since I plan on running a suppressor in the future, I'll just get a 3-prong flash hider from Surefire. I've got connections there anyway and was planning on running one of theirs.



Tony.

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Originally posted by benny6:
Well since I plan on running a suppressor in the future, I'll just get a 3-prong flash hider from Surefire.

That works. I have a few Surefire mounts on my ARs, so I can use one SOCOM can on multiple rifles.