A little skinnier than I prefer, but serviceable.

I don’t like the finger bump. It’s like finger grooves on a Glock, they just don’t fit my hand.

Magpul here; long fingers/big paws.

Would you like to shoot a pistol with that grip? I like the Magpul+ grip.

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Originally posted by clubleaf206:
And in the category of weird pistol grips is the Valmet 76, it is (was) simply a round, grooved tube.

I think you're confusing the later Valmet m76 with its initial prototype m60 and some of the early production m62s.

Most Finnish military Valmet m62s and all of the m76s had a traditional grip, somewhat similar to some AK grips:


Whereas the pre-adoption prototype m60s and some of the early production m62s had the cylindrical grip you're describing:

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

quote:

Originally posted by clubleaf206:
And in the category of weird pistol grips is the Valmet 76, it is (was) simply a round, grooved tube.

I think you're confusing the later Valmet m76 with its initial prototype m60 and some of the early production m62s.

Most Finnish military Valmet m62s and all of the m76s had a traditional grip, somewhat similar to some AK grips:


Whereas the pre-adoption prototype m60s and some of the early production m62s had the cylindrical grip you're describing:

Valmet grips are awesome - I have one on a krink and one on a Saiga12. Best ak grip.

I like the A2 grip, even if you have callosed hands, it will rub you raw.

Must use a glove for extended use.
I dont mind the bump, doesn’t seem to bother me.

I like the Magpul design the thickness of the material concerns me.

The A2 is robust without doubt, Ive also used an A2 reversed as a forward grip with switch tape for illumination on a Swan mount.

I go through phases where I like it, then I don’t.

As for the Valmet, I liked the early M62 furniture, forend was a but clumsy but useful, handled a bunch of those in the days when they were imported.

lived near the importer in Elmsford NY

The grip angle, as mentioned, was more appropriate for the chicken wing hold in the early days as depicted in this picture.


In CQB, typically your arm is going to be more tucked into your side and the A1 and A2 grip caused your wrist to bend at an uncomfortable angle. The grips with the lesser angle that pointed downward in a more vertical orientation worked better with your arm tucked into your side.

Angle, finger thing, and causes me to ride up onto the receiver getting too much finger on the trigger. I like the MOE K2 best now, for pretty much everything. Before that the standard MOE. Beavertail keeps hand from riding up, and trigger reach is just right.

For something close to the A1 footprint, Griffin makes an A3 grip. Shallower angle and no finger thing. Good except for the riding up part.

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Originally posted by blfuller:
The grip angle, as mentioned, was more appropriate for the chicken wing hold in the early days as depicted in this picture.

So THAT'S 'the shoulder thing that goes up'!

I've been wrong for so long.

Funny, I never noticed the A2 grip being small, but then I have smallish hands. That said, I have the BCM Gunfighter grips on most of my ARs now and like them better. Must be the angle.

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Originally posted by mike28w:
This is just my opinion, but I don't like the angle of the A2 grip. It makes me cant my wrist and I have arthritis in that wrist.
I prefer a grip that is less canted and more vertical. Simply a comfort thing for me.

This is the main complaint with A1/A2 grips, that and they lack “meat” to them. With that said, they are all I use because that it what I used my entire time in the Army and never had a problem with them. They’re cheap, easily sourced, and can be modified by the end user.

For me, its just way too close to the trigger and doesn't even remotely fill my hand. When I reach for my trigger it is hitting well inside of the second joint of my finger. To get to the pad of the tip of my finger, I have to hold it at a really odd angle. The top of the grip needs to come back about a full 1" and needs to be more vertical.

CMP Service Rifle Rules

"Only standard A1 or A2 type
pistol grips are permitted.