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March 21, 2024, 06:25 PM
OttoSig
308 Garand Arrived today
Been wanting one of these, CMP finally got 308 barrels in so I grabbed a Winchester version. I'm not that sentimental WRT the Navy, I've got 10 years, and I'll do my 20, but I'm not one to get a Navy tattoo or anything. With that said, the P226 NSW and this will never go anywhere.

Nice Flambeau box from CMP.






Quick glance online put this somewhere in March 1944.






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March 21, 2024, 06:40 PM
92fstech
Very nice!
March 21, 2024, 06:41 PM
benny6
Looking good!


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March 21, 2024, 06:46 PM
RogueJSK
2,404,397 should be early June 1944. Right around the D-Day landings, since yours falls within the first 5k or so produced in June 1944, and Winchester were cranking out an average of about 6k per week.

Production in May 1944 ended in the 2,439,000s.

June 1944 production ended in the 2,454,000s.
March 21, 2024, 07:10 PM
OttoSig
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
2,404,397 should be early June 1944. Right around the D-Day landings, since yours falls within the first 5k or so produced in June 1944, and Winchester were cranking out an average of about 6k per week.

Production in May 1944 ended in the 2,439,000s.

June 1944 production ended in the 2,454,000s.


Thanks Rogue.

Tony,
Gonna need a M14 to match the twins at some point. Wink





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March 21, 2024, 07:48 PM
92fstech
quote:
Gonna need a M14 to match the twins at some point.


You and me both! I keep telling myself I have two Garands and don't need an M1A...but the urge is still there. I used to have access to a couple of M14s through work, and really enjoyed shooting them. We ended up returning them to the people in Anniston, and I miss them badly. I've handled Springfield Armory M1As and was less than impressed with the fit and finish compared to my 80 year-old, mass-produced-in-wartime M1 Garands, but a benny6 build would be just the ticket! The problem is exercising self control for a long enough period of time to accumulate the funds Frown.
March 21, 2024, 09:21 PM
sprg03-A3
Beautiful rifle!! Looks like a very nice piece of walnut on that Garand. Is that a CMP service grade Expert?

I just picked up my second Garand in 308, a CMP Special put together in late 2013, bought by the guy who sold it to me who did some trigger work and installed national match sights who then put it away without ever shooting it, who then sold it to me. Mine is a Springfield 1.15 mil made in January/February of 1943. The Specials put together back then were of excellent quality, fit and finish with no pitting on the receivers. My other two Specials were of identical stories bought from the same seller, both H&Rs, one in 308 bought three years ago.

I really like my M1a Loaded, but there is just something special about a real M1 Garand.

Please let us know how it shoots.
March 21, 2024, 09:26 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by 92fstech:
I keep telling myself I have two Garands and don't need an M1A...


Oh, but you do... Big Grin


March 21, 2024, 09:45 PM
OttoSig
Rogue, what are you putting on your stocks to create that luster?





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March 21, 2024, 09:54 PM
RogueJSK
Pure tung oil.

100% pure. Not the "tung oil finish" found in the hardware store, which is mostly chemical additives.

https://www.realmilkpaint.com/...pure-tung-chinawood/
March 21, 2024, 10:38 PM
wolfe 21
Very nice Garand. Makes me wish I qualified to purchase one for myself.
I am curious why 308 instead of an -06? Ammo availability or ?


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March 22, 2024, 03:59 AM
sprg03-A3
quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
Rogue, what are you putting on your stocks to create that luster?


Danish oil will also give a sheen to your stock. I finished my Garand stock using 3 coats of boiled linseed oil, then with 3 coats of Danish oil at the suggestion of a guy at work. Definitely more sheen than on my stocks finished with just BLO.
March 22, 2024, 06:25 AM
benny6
quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
2,404,397 should be early June 1944. Right around the D-Day landings, since yours falls within the first 5k or so produced in June 1944, and Winchester were cranking out an average of about 6k per week.

Production in May 1944 ended in the 2,439,000s.

June 1944 production ended in the 2,454,000s.


Thanks Rogue.

Tony,
Gonna need a M14 to match the twins at some point. Wink


I'd be happy to do it! Pretty much all my customers do it the Johnny Cash way, "One Piece At a Time".

LRB M14 receivers are only a couple of month out at this point and that's the part with the longest lead time. Everything else can pretty much be readily found.

I'm digging the Minelli stocks too! I'll have to ask LRB how many they have left.





Tony.


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March 22, 2024, 06:26 AM
P220 Smudge
Beautiful. I just recently took delivery of a trade I’d been working for over a year - a Winchester M1 to replace the one I stupidly sold in my early 20’s to pay for rent. My previous was early April of ‘43. This is late February of ‘43, and they’re within 15,000 of each other. Not bad. Yours is in much nicer shape than either of mine.


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March 22, 2024, 06:40 AM
92fstech
quote:
Originally posted by wolfe 21:
Very nice Garand. Makes me wish I qualified to purchase one for myself.


If you're an American Citizen over the age of 18 (21 if your state is communist), not a prohibited person, who shoots (has a CHL, FOID, or any other number of possible common documents indicating that you've pulled a trigger), the only thing you'd be missing is to be a member of an affiliated club.

My club is CMP affiliated, so that one was easy for me, but both of my brothers joined the Garand Collector's Association to meet that requirement. It was just a simple online form and $25, IIRC.
March 22, 2024, 06:52 AM
OttoSig
quote:
Originally posted by 92fstech:
quote:
Originally posted by wolfe 21:
Very nice Garand. Makes me wish I qualified to purchase one for myself.


If you're an American Citizen over the age of 18 (21 if your state is communist), not a prohibited person, who shoots (has a CHL, FOID, or any other number of possible common documents indicating that you've pulled a trigger), the only thing you'd be missing is to be a member of an affiliated club.

My club is CMP affiliated, so that one was easy for me, but both of my brothers joined the Garand Collector's Association to meet that requirement. It was just a simple online form and $25, IIRC.


Their qualifications sound confusing but they are fairly easy. I filled out the order form, mailed it with a copy of my birth certificate, and my CAC, which luckily for me takes care of the safety course and club affiliation in one.

Funny enough, this shipped faster than the web slings I ordered from them, took about 24 days I believe.





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March 22, 2024, 08:01 AM
redlickranch
Looks great. I have several garands in 30-06 and recently sent in paperwork for a 308 for the collection. CMP emailed me saying they were waiting on more to be built.


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March 22, 2024, 01:17 PM
sprg03-A3
quote:
Originally posted by wolfe 21:
Very nice Garand. Makes me wish I qualified to purchase one for myself.
I am curious why 308 instead of an -06? Ammo availability or ?


In the recent past 308 was cheaper than 30.06, especially after '06 surplus supplies dried up while there was still surplus 7.62X51 available. Not so much anymore it doesn't seem. There is/was also the notion that 308 is inherently more accurate. Probably true, but all academic to a duffer like me. Probably the biggest advantage to me is that 308 is much more forgiving on the action than '06 in that it is strongly suggested that Garand owners buy or load and shoot ammo specifically loaded to work with the Garand gas systems, whereas pretty much any 7.62X51 or 308 works well.

I just liked the idea of owning a Garand in 308.
March 22, 2024, 02:42 PM
OttoSig
quote:
Originally posted by wolfe 21:
Very nice Garand. Makes me wish I qualified to purchase one for myself.
I am curious why 308 instead of an -06? Ammo availability or ?


I have a 30-06, and given my active duty service to the Navy, I wanted a .308. I know it’s not original Navy hardware but all the same to me.





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March 22, 2024, 03:02 PM
92fstech
quote:
Probably the biggest advantage to me is that 308 is much more forgiving on the action than '06 in that it is strongly suggested that Garand owners buy or load and shoot ammo specifically loaded to work with the Garand gas systems, whereas pretty much any 7.62X51 or 308 works well.



Interesting...I guess I never looked into this. I handload all of my .30-06 Garand ammo with published "Garand-Safe" recipes to keep from damaging the op-rod, but I guess I'd never considered if the same had to be done for the .308 Garands, or for that matter the M14. So you can feed a .308 Garand pretty much any SAAMI Spec ammo?