With all of the 8.6/338/375/458 options out there I've been toying with the idea of making a delisle carbine homage but with a do it all caliber. It got me thinking, bolt or semi, rifle or AR shaped etc.
If you were making a delisle today what would you do?
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A friend of mine did exactly this. I forget the details of his build, but he had a suppressor manufacturer who is no longer in business build an integrally suppressed barrel on a bolt gun for him. He started it in .22TCM and had it converted to 9mm. I shot it a few months ago and it was silly quiet. I'll ask him for the particulars.
I feel like much of it wouldn't translate with the kinds of calibers you list, but the punchline is still going to be best to do it in a bolt gun. The one thing I've found in the fair bit of suppressed shooting I've done so far this year is that semi-autos only get so quiet, but guns where the action stays closed until you manually cycle it can be as near "Hollywood quiet" as you're likely to get. Can start with whatever action you'd want, but if it were me picking from actual rifle calibers, it would be in something that feeds from detachable AR mags, in whichever form factor.
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Hornady makes a subsonic 450 Bushmaster, and the .458 Socom has subsonic rounds with it's heaviest bullets (up to 600 grain).
I'm also certain that there will be a variety of handloadings for the new straight walled deer cartridges that would be amenable to a subsonic load.
Given that subsonic will be quietest, I would want the biggest, heaviest bullet the system will manage.
If I was spending that kind of money, I'd want a semi-auto, even if it cost me a bit of noise, and there seem to be a bunch of companies out there with integrally suppressed uppers.
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I’ve been toying with the idea of getting a Ruger American in .300 Blackout. Personally, I’d probably just use a can, maybe SBR it, but an integrally suppressed option would be awesome.
The nice thing about the Ruger in .300 is you can use AR mags, and get decent ammo quantity, just like the original Delisle.
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I just bought a Gen 1 Ruger American Ranch in 300 Blackout. Put my .30 cal can on it. Nice and quiet w/ 150 grain supersonic rounds. Stupid quiet and make you smile ear to ear quiet w/subsonic rounds. I was using Hornady 190 grain subsonic rounds. Stupid quiet like noticeably less noise than my .25 cal Hatsun pellet rifle.
I may have a blind spot for the rugers, alot of people seem to like them. I have nothing against them mind you, I've just never taken one off the shelf.
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A primary draw of the Ruger American Ranch rifles in this situation is their use of AR mags.
The Delisle used 1911 magazines. So a modern Delisle should use widely available detachable magazines as well.
It also helps that these Rugers are available from the factory in several of the .350-.450 subsonic "thumper" loadings, which further simplifies the build.
And the fact that available calibers like .350 Legend or .450 Bushmaster are not only effective defensive and hunting calibers, but are also straight-walled which means they qualify for expanded hunting seasons in a number of states, which adds to your requested "do-all caliber" capability.
Plus the popularity of the Ruger American rifles means aftermarket support is increasing, which helps with customization.
In fact, if you aren't a stickler for integral suppression like the original Delisle, you can grab an off the shelf Ruger Ranch in .350/.450, screw on a silencer, slap on a red dot or LPVO, and have basically a modern Delisle with minimal effort.
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After learning about this rifle, I figured that this Ruger is a good start. https://ruger.com/products/sco...specSheets/6837.html The point of the American using AR15 mags is good. 8.6 is of course is the hip new thing.
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Originally posted by Voshterkoff: The point of the American using AR15 mags is good. 8.6 is of course is the hip new thing.
8.6 would be doable starting with a Ruger American Ranch or Ruger Scout in .308. They use detachable AICS mags, which are a decent alternative option to AR mags. They're widely available, just pricier and not as ubiquitous.
Originally posted by RogueJSK: 8.6 would be doable starting with a Ruger American Ranch or Ruger Scout in .308. They use detachable AICS mags, which are a decent alternative option to AR mags. They're widely available, just pricier and not as ubiquitous.
In the current market, parting together a build with a barrel nut would probably be easier.
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