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IM looking to buy a shotgun mainly for home defense. I’ve been looking at the Mossberg 500 or the Maverick 88. Trap and skeet shooting is something I probably will get into down the road. Any thoughts? Should I go a different rout all together? I’m trying to keep my cost under 400$ | ||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Remington 870 12 gauge with 18 inch barrel and a Knoxx stock. You can't beat that. | |||
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The mossberg 500 or the Remington 870 are both good choices. Manually operated, you can get a riot barrel for both and then use the gun for hunting also. Both are almost indestructible...just keep them away from sailors and 5 year olds.... "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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I found a Winchester 1300 Defender for something like $200 years ago. Gunbroker has a selection from $135 to $320. It has been quite satisfactory. Thankfully I haven't had to use it. We knew a fellow in San Diego who got into guns. He had a small business, made a barely adequate living for his growing family. He lusted after a Benelli shotgun that at the time was $1200. I showed him mine, let him shoot it. It would certainly have been just fine for his purpose. I did my best to dissuade him, in his marginal circumstances, to not spend money on the Benelli. I hope he listened to me. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
You nailed it. | |||
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Trap and Skeet shooting have different needs than a defense type shotgun. I have one for each purpose and a few others just sitting around. Awake not woke | |||
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^^^This. Mine is an SXP version that comes with a HD barrel and a long barrel with interchangeable chokes. Very nice and relatively inexpensive. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
Nice! For the OP, this is the police model which has a lot of upgrades compared to the 18" express model. Here is what Remington has to say about the differences. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Rem 870 is the Glock 19 of shotguns. Has been doing the job for decades. | |||
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Thank you everyone! I like the Rem 870 with the Knoxx stock. Ill have to look into that | |||
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Ive had an 18" 870 with an extended tube, I think it holds 5 or 6 (maybe 7) standard length shells. Ive had it for over a decade. | |||
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Rule #1: Use enough gun |
You can never go wrong with an 870. When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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Do No Harm, Do Know Harm |
2 feet from me sits my Remington 870. It's at least 30 years old, probably older. I 'won' a chance to buy it for $100 from my old agency when they were retiring some guns. So it did decades of police service before coming to me, and works perfectly. 18" barrel, 4 rounds. I took off the stock it came with and put a Hogue shock absorbing pistol grip. I, and 99% of the rest of people with any sense, would normally recommend against a pistol grip on a 12 gauge, however this is my house gun and I have shot numerous loads out of it and feel supremely confident with it at indoor-distances. Only thing that I don't like is low-capacity. That Hogue grip really tamps down the recoil. I have *accidentally* shot 3" magnums out of a Marine Magnum I used to have, with hard plastic grips. That freaking hurt, for days. I thought I had broken something. The Hogues make all the difference in the world. Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here. Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard. -JALLEN "All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Those used 870Ps from Summit are a good deal. I'd take that over a new production 870 Express any day.
The Maverick 88 is basically a Mossberg 500. It's just the cheaper "budget" version, lacking some features and with some corners cut during production. | |||
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Learn it, know it, live it |
I'd also say the 870, I have 2 of them. A 1985 blued with wood and a 'tactical' express I bought off a friend. | |||
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I have 2 Winchester SXP's for sporting clays. Nice thing about them is that they unlock and open the breech almost half way after a shot. This makes for faster followup shot. One also came with an 18" barrel. I removed the magazine tube blocker (30 second job) to add 2 more rounds to the capacity. | |||
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Little ray of sunshine |
Can't beat it for home defense. It would be a terrible trap and skeet gun. For that, the conversation gets longer and more specific. A Remington 1100 would make a good entry level trap or skeet gun. Or one of the Beretta gas autos. You DO NOT want a pump for skeet. It makes the doubles harder than they need to be. Trap guns get very specialized. A specialists dedicated trap gun isn't good for much else. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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Armed and Gregarious |
If you're a righty either a Remington 870P or Mossberg 590A1. If you're a lefty get a Mossberg 590A1. Skip pistol grip stocks, especially with the Mossberg. If you can't afford the 870P or Mossberg 590A1, then get an 870 Express or 500, and upgrade them to the 870P or 590 components as soon as you can afford to do it. If you're planning on shooting skeet/trap, I'd recommend finding a good O/U or a semi-auto. However, the price will probably be WAY more than $400, and that's why no semi-auto is recommended above. ___________________________________________ "He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman | |||
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Armed and Gregarious |
Unless you're a lefty, then it sucks. ___________________________________________ "He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman | |||
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