Not to be confused with forced-reset triggers, which the ATF seems to be going after, the binary trigger does not violate the letter of the law, at least until they change their mind.

Those are pretty neat.
Burning through ammo even faster doesn't work out for me though.

Those would have been pretty nifty in the early 2000's when mil-surp was dirt cheap.

When you consider the cost or building or purchasing high quality ammunition today I have no interest at all in these gimmicks.

BTW, I have 3 hand built AR's put together with premium components and the two in .223 Wylde have never fired one single round of factory made ammunition, each cartridge used has been a product of my workmanship. As for the 300 BLK, when I put it together locating 300 BLK brass was a bit of a challenge. So it was broken in with 2 boxes of commercial ammo.

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Originally posted by Scooter123:
When you consider the cost or building or purchasing high quality ammunition today I have no interest at all in these gimmicks.

You should consider the possibility that a time may come when these devices would be more than just "gimmicks".

I’m considering one for an “IAR” type build I’m slowly getting parts for. I was eyeing the super safety, but predictably the ATF isn’t a fan.

A separate lower with one of these triggers would make a lot of sense.

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Originally posted by Scooter123:
BTW, I have 3 hand built AR's put together with premium components and the two in .223 Wylde have never fired one single round of factory made ammunition...

Recently read some posts from a guy actively involved in combat in Ukraine, and he had an interesting perspective. He's gone through about a half dozen rifles in the last two years. Most of them were blown up by enemy ordnance. At least one of them, he had to simply ditch and leave behind. He said that having a half dozen PSA rifles with cheap optics and a whole lot of ammo cached in different places would be a far more practical use of money compared to Gucci guns and match ammo. His point was essentially that anyone who thinks they're going to take a top-tier rifle into a shit situation and even come close to wearing it out is beyond deluded.

It's not a perspective I considered, and honestly, I don't think he's wrong. One, or several of those rifles having a binary trigger wouldn't be a bad idea.

I've tried the binary & FRT.

The FRT, I was ok with 3-5 round bursts, any more than that & was getting some muzzle rise. Could probably get better with practice.

The binary was interesting too, and more controllable.

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
The binary was interesting too, and more controllable.

Considering there's a number of assault rifle designs with two round burst as a default, I think it makes a lot of sense. For a lot of rifles in 5.56, there isn't going to be a lot of muzzle climb from the first shot to the next on binary mode.

I have to ignore the new IARs out there because a trigger like this in one all the sudden has my attention and checks a lot of boxes.

Hey, Pete, looky here

Get up on the roof with that sucker and own some real estate. I wonder if Santa will have these for Christmas 2024.

They make a lower to place and frt or binary for a SCAR17. Gonna buy a fight lite upper this year before November.

Red Right Hand has some cool stuff too. 7.62 Nato also, can't afford to even look down that rabbit hole.

Brings purpose back to the old Green Tip laying around too. Never thought I would like this idea. After hearing the HK rep explain the IAR concept it made sense to me.

Fostech

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Fostech

For the sake of discussion, what makes this a better option than Franklin?

Though this video is four years old, it may give some indication of the concerns regarding the Franklin Armory offering. Perhaps this has been corrected by now.

I’ve got a few binary triggers, all but one is the Franklin Armory. My favorite is the 10-22 and the HK binary is my second favorite. It works fine in all my MP5’s but I like it best in my 53 clone. The one for the Scorpion EVO would be great too if the bolt carrier wasn’t so heavy, it kinda beats you up. The AR binary trigger I have is an early version and a bit picky.