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It's not you, it's me. |
Not sure if I phrased that correctly. I'm tossing around the idea of exploring a caliber other than .223 for my next builds. Using a standard AR15 lower (marked Cal Multi) what calibers are able to be used with it? Bonus question, what calibers do you suggest and why for a non-.223 AR15? I know it's subjective, but I'm just looking for information about the different options. What caliber is fun? What's just cool to have? What's expensive? What's just dumb? The gun's purpose will not be anything in particular...just looking to expand my horizons a bit. | ||
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Fighting the good fight |
.17 Mach 2 .17 HMR .17 Winchester Super Magnum .22 Long Rifle .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire .17 Mach IV .17 Remington Fireball .17 Remington .17×223 .17×204 Ruger .17 Tactical .19 Calhoon .19×223 Calhoon .20 Tactical .20 Practical .204 Ruger .20 PPC .20×6.8 .20 LBC .219 WASP-C .222 Remington .223 Remington .223 Remington Ackley Improved .223 BoZ .22 PPC .22 LBC .22 Nosler .224 AR .22×6.8 .243 LBC .223 Winchester Super Short Magnum .243 Winchester Super Short Magnum .25 Winchester Super Short Magnum .25-45 Sharps .25×6.8 .257 Bobcat .264 LBC .270 AR .277 Wolverine (6.8×39mm) .30 Carbine .30 Herrett (.308-6.8) .30 American .30 Remington AR .300 OSSM .300 AAC Blackout (7.62×35mm) .300 Whisper .300 Winchester Magnum .300 Sabre .30 Coyote (30×40) .30×6.8 (BHW) .32 ACP .338×39 .35/40 .35×44 .338 Spectre .357 SIG .357 Automag .358 Yeti .375 Reaper .375 SOCOM .40 S&W .410 Shotgun .44 Remington Magnum .44 Automag .440 Corbon Mag .45 ACP .450 Bushmaster .458 SOCOM .475 Tremor .499 LW .50 Beowulf .50 Action Express .640 Express Magnum 5.45×39mm 5.56×42mm (5.56-6.8) 5.56×45mm 5.7×28mm FN 6.5×40 6×45mm 6×6.8 6mm Hagar 6mm PPC 6mm AR 6mm AR Turbo 6mm Dasher 6mm Fat Rat 6mm Grendel AI 6mm PDK 6mm BR 6mm BRX 6.5mm BRX 6.5×6.8 6.5mm Grendel 6.5mm Patriot Combat Cartridge 6.5 BR 6.8×39mm (.277 Wolverine) 6.8mm Remington SPC 7×40 7mm SCAR 7mm BR 7mm Valkyrie 7.62×24mm 7.62×37mm Mustang 7.62×39mm 7.62×40mm Wilson Tactical 7.92x33mm Kurz 9mm Parabellum 9×23mm 10mm Auto 10mm SOCOM ... I might have missed one or two. | |||
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You could throw a 50bmg upper on there, but it’d be single loading. Fortunately, I know a local range you can shoot it at. | |||
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Far too many to list if your get into all the wildcats most folks never heard of. For example, everyone now knows the "300 Blackout"... the 30/221. But there are also .25, 6mm, 6.5, 7mm, 8mm versions of just that one alone. The list above has a few AR-10 sized rounds, not AR-15. And that "30 Herrett" one is news to me and a puzzler. Why would you name it the same as something that already exists? Just add "AR" to it? Why go with an intentionally confusing name? It was pretty F'ing stupid when when Remington did it with the .30 Remington AR (we saw how well that one did). And while I'm ranting about names.. "25-45 Sharps"? Neat cartridge, but you couldn't have come up with a worse, less "AR" sounding name. It's an AR for christ sake, "tacticool" sells, why make it sound like a buffalo round. Why not call it a musket. _____________________________________________________ Sliced bread, the greatest thing since the 1911. | |||
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It's not you, it's me. |
Ooookay then...that's a lot, thanks Rogue. | |||
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It's not you, it's me. |
Ha! You guys are killin me. What's a fun caliber to build around? Maybe my one requirement is for it to not be super expensive to buy the parts, or hard to find the ammo. | |||
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I hear 5.56 is a fun alternative in that platform. Ballistically, it’s very similar to .223, and doesn’t require extensive modification to the bolt, barrel, or magazines. | |||
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It's not you, it's me. |
I already have one chambered in 5.56 AND one chambered in .223. It's hard to tell them apart. | |||
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Have seen one in 22-250, but can't recall the manufacturer. 300BO & 6.8SPCII would probably be my 2 alternates. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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I've always been tempted by .50 Beowulf. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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The greatest benefit of a different caliber requires your defining what it will do better than 223. Do you want greater accuracy? Lower wind drift at distance? Greater terminal energy? Do you plan to hunt, and if so, which animals? What kind of optics do you want and are willing to pay for? Do you hand load? Are you looking for a short, regular, on long length barrel? Will you suppress the gun? What barrel life in rounds do you find acceptable? Do you have a preference for subsonic or supersonic loads? Are you willing to use bolts and magazines different from those used in a 223? | |||
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300 blackout suppressed in my favorite alternative cartridge. 6.8 SPC is fun for a minute. I killed 3 deer with the cartridge. I have no interest in other cartridges at this point. I like cheap ammo when it comes to ARs. I don't like hunting with them either. They are bulky, metal is louder than wood or composite, and bolt guns set up for hunting are generally lighter. | |||
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a 300blk ar-pistol will be my next gun. ____________________________ While you may be able to get away with bottom shelf whiskey, stay the hell away from bottom shelf tequila. - FishOn | |||
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Working on one now, have everything but the lpk. “People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik Be harder to kill: https://preparefit.ck.page | |||
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300 Blackout, simple change. 9MM, cheap fun. Maybe 458 SOCOM after that. | |||
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I'll use the Red Key |
357Sig sounds like a fun one. Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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This gets my vote. Exactly what I was thinking. Train how you intend to Fight Remember - Training is not sparring. Sparring is not fighting. Fighting is not combat. | |||
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I don't know if anyone offers a complete .357 Sig AR, but there are a few manufacturers, like Quarter Circle 10 and Macon Armory, who offer .357 SIG AR parts (namely barrels as everything else can use .40 parts). You can use either RRA .40 stick magazines or Glock 357/40 magazines, depending on the lower receiver or magwell adapter you go with. Here's a thread from last year with ARMT Man's .357 Sig AR: https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...0601935/m/2540013614 | |||
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I've got mental blue balls now |
fritz asked lots of good questions. Personally, I have built up and diversified the caliber options the past 15 months. I have added 10.5" pistols in 9mm, 300BLK, 7.62x39, and .223 Wylde. 16" rifles in 6.5 Grendel and 6.8 SPC. Right now I can't decide what to build next, likely dedicated .22LR, maybe .357SIG or 10mm, possibly 45ACP. 458SOCOM interests me, but right now I'm kind of into reloading mode as winter approaches and a new 100yd indoor range opened up 5 miles away from my house _____________________________________________ Welcome to Idaho, now take a wolf and go home! | |||
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It doesn’t meet your cheap ammo requirement, but .458 SOCOM is one fun AR to shoot... I mean what’s not to like about a big bore AR? And with factory ammo available from 200gr to 500gr, there are a lot of options... | |||
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