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First I've heard of them and introduced through a YouTube video about the JOE carbine.
I went to their site and while the JOE is there, another rifle caught my eye. So I did the build your own rifle with the drop down boxes and the price was ~$1900. I did not order though.
Anyone have one of this company's rifles?
I have my 2 Colt 6920's but this seems to be an obvious step up in parts and accessories.


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I'm not familiar with that brand, but if I were looking to spend around $1900 on an AR, I'd buy a Geissele Super Duty. I bought one during their Christmas sale and it's a phenomenal rifle.
 
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That's a lot of coin for a rifle that doesn't jump out as something special, from a company that doesn't jump out as something special.

There are a number of well-known, high-quality AR builders at this price range.

You can have a good 'smith build you a great rifle at this price point. Buy your preferred components, put them in a box, hand the box to your 'smith. And every part of the rifle is what you want.
 
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That's a lot of coin for a rifle that doesn't jump out as something special, from a company that doesn't jump out as something special.


They used a bunch of good parts, assembled it and marked it up a bit.
The same can be done by just about anyone with not many tools.

I don't see any reason to face off the front of the receiver unless it's poor quality that you have to correct.
Like my PSA 9mm upper that had my irons and red dot windage almost maxed out to the left.

Now if the description went something like.. Barrel is thermally fit to the upper, my ears would perk up a bit more.

$1,900 for a shopping cart AR isn't appealing to me when the FN 15 Tac3 is $1,600 MSRP.
https://fnamerica.com/products...les/fn-15-tac3-duty/
 
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I've built my own and spent less. They both got faced - the first because ten years ago it was the thing, the last because I could tweak the barrel nut within specs to line up the gas tube. It's not worthless and I didn't have to play with torque or wait for shims.

And I'll do it agin! Got the tool anyway. When you get up to 85ftlbs and it still not quite far enough, lap it and try again. It works.

The expensive rifle got all the nitride custom stuff etc and now has quality furniture, still only shoots as good as I do. The cheapest one cost half, same MOO - minute of owner. The one Im building now will arrive in between because Exotic Cartridge barrel and bolt. Not cheap. And I won't even free float it.

There are things that actually add performance but if it is out of the window of operation or accuracy, it's a sequin prom dress at the 4WD expedition. A lot of guns get put together as snapshots of what is cool tech right now, in five years, they are dated like the 80s. Keep it simple and classic and it won't go sour.

Nobody much builds M4geries with carbine quad rails, 16" barrels, and CAR stocks much. Avoid the fashion and it's good to go. Goes double for loud muzzle devices on a berm shooter. Like glass packs - just noise. A quiet gear driven cam and 180 headers, thats music.

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Like cars, there is good taste in AR's and then there is Main Street.


I get it. Still kind of deciding on what to do.
Part of me also wants to just upgrade my 2 Colts and leave it at that. Triggers, handguards, etc. No muzzle device because I like what's on it now.
Thanks for the responses.


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If you want to switch it up a bit a complete upper is a good option these days.
Colt upper
Lots of other good options out there as well.

A better trigger is pretty easy to do.
 
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