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Need Help on 45-70 new rifle
November 26, 2017, 12:04 AM
Aeromat209Need Help on 45-70 new rifle
Looking at the Marlin 45-70 guide rifle
Ported or not ?
Is it worth the extra expense from the factory
November 26, 2017, 12:42 AM
newmexicanI personally wouldn't.
November 26, 2017, 12:55 AM
BB61I personally don’t like ports on a hunting rifle. I have an SBL and I shoot HSM’s +P 430 grain hard cast gas checked Bear Load. I personally don’t see a need with this load in my SBL which is hotter than what you can buy from Remington, Winchester, etc. HSM energy is 3029 and velocity is 1781.
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November 26, 2017, 06:06 AM
syboI personally LOVE my Henry “All-Weather” 45-70! The only thing I note is it’s a little heavier than the Marlin. It’s only an observation as I would buy it again! I’ve SPLATTERED lots of Hogs with mine.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/62799265@N02/hih080It looks like I would get spanked by that scope, not, this rifle fits me like a glove and is VERRRY accurate! Thumpers RULE!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/62799265@N02/NZo0C3November 26, 2017, 06:50 AM
WARPIG602Id take a Henry over new Marlin as well. Especially the All Weather.
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November 26, 2017, 07:13 AM
MNSIGI've almost bought a Guide Gun a several times in the past few years because the concept really appeals to me. The talk of poor QC has kept me on the sidelines. While the ones I saw in the store seemed visually OK, the actions felt like you dumped a cup of sand into them.
November 26, 2017, 07:18 AM
Chris AnchorWe own a Marlin very nice rifle but if the Henry's action is as smooth as their 22's get the Henry. Our Marlin is about 10 years old and it has that gritty action vs the butter smooth action of our Henrys. Chris
November 26, 2017, 07:24 AM
mbinkyI have a Henry color case hardened in 45-70 and it is absolutly beautiful. My friend has a Marlin but I prefer the Henry even though it is a little bigger and heavier.
As to porting, not a fan on any firearm.
November 26, 2017, 09:50 AM
jaybirdaccountantI agree with the others. Skip the ports. They aren't needed and you're ears will thank you.
November 26, 2017, 11:33 AM
WARPIG602The Henry weigh more but its all in the barrel. The color case hardened Henry on the left has 22in octagon barrel, the Marlin CB with 26in ocatogon barrel sitting next to it weighs considerably less, at least according to how they feel in my hands.
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November 26, 2017, 03:23 PM
gearhoundsPersonally, were I looking for one, I would look for a gently used pre-Remington Guide gun (or a Classic 22" if length is not an issue).
You will find that by and large, the pre-Rem guns have much smoother actions, and QC will have been much better to boot.
22" Classic...
Porting is somewhat louder than not, and does not offer a significant reduction in recoil...unless you have a properly designed and installed muzzle brake, that is.
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WARPIG602quote:
Originally posted by gearhounds:
Personally, were I looking for one, I would look for a gently used pre-Remington Guide gun (or a Classic 22" if length is not an issue).
You will find that by and large, the pre-Rem guns have much smoother actions, and QC will have been much better to boot.
22" Classic...
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Porting is somewhat louder than not, and does not offer a significant reduction in recoil...unless you have a properly designed and installed muzzle brake, that is.
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You should just sell that thing to me already.
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November 26, 2017, 07:16 PM
RivahRatPre-Rem Marlin Classic, longer barrel, short mag tube, and the stock is easier to grip.
November 26, 2017, 08:29 PM
inspcalahanNo ports and go with the Henry! I love mine - absolutely awesome .45-70! I did put a Skinner peep sight on it though.
November 27, 2017, 04:54 AM
syboWeather it be a Marlin, Winchester, Henry, when I pull the trigger on a Wild Hog, especially running at me, I cannot tell if my rifle is ported or not! At that moment it really doesn’t matter.......that’s just me......
November 27, 2017, 09:20 AM
gearhoundsquote:
You should just sell that thing to me already.
lol
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Sock Eating GoldenI've hated porting on any gun that I've had it on. I'm not sure if it's the ergonomics of the Marlin or the weight of the lever action. But, it really does not kick that much.
Porting only makes a gun louder.
Nick
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casI had my Guide gun shortened, in a small part to lose the ports.
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Sliced bread, the greatest thing since the 1911.
November 28, 2017, 09:02 PM
rburgI don't know if Browning is still marketing their 1886 reproduction (yes, its Japanese). The one I have is a Montana Centennial version. Ugly gold lettering but great wood. Yes, its too heavy to hump uphill or too long to swing in heavy brush. But it will digest about all factory loadings, even Bufflao Bore.
A different rifle for a different purpose than the guide gun.
Unhappy ammo seeker
December 04, 2017, 10:58 PM
Aeromat209Thanks guy's for the input found a Mint 1895 JM stamped 18" with great blueing , wood and original recoil pad and original sling mounts for $630 OTD at local Gun show!<a href="https://imgur.com/yIcf72X"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/yIcf72Xh.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>
