I just picked up a Sub2K set up for Beretta 92 mags. The conversion piece is already ordered so I can use 226 mags. I am hitting targets about six inches left at 50 yards. The picture below shows that my front site post is as far left as possible and the rear is not adjustable. The picture of the target obviously shows the impacts but the X is where I was aiming to land them where they were. My hand is there for a size reference although it also illustrates what happens when you're not used to a charging knob near the stock. I was shooting off sandbags and typically keep my left hand tucked under my right arm and I got caught.

I'm hoping someone has some suggestions how to get this rifle sighted in. My front site post does not appear canted and I shoot my ARs with iron sites so I'm no stranger to the sight picture. Needless to say I'm a little bummed out after my first range trip. Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Brian

This is a super frustrating situation.

I've had a couple guns in the past I got rid of due to it.

If it shoots to the left and you need to move the group right and you have no more mechanical adjustment to drift the front sight left, and the rear sight can't be drifted right, you have limited options. You can play with various handloads or factory loads to get them to zero. This might work but might not. I have a registered SBR 1973 Browning Capitan that shoots 115, 124 and 147 grain bullets in a horizontal line. I've had other guns that did similarly.

In a double rifle or a combination gun you might be expected to face this and set the thing up for one load and be happy, but with a gun like the 2000 I reckon you'd like to be able to use whatever comes your way.

It might not be possible. That sucks.

One last option is a custom one; custom sights allowing additional lateral adjustment or...bending the barrel. The former is unsightly. The latter is risky.

I wish I could point you a better direction. Easiest try is to get a mix of bullet weights and power levels and try it. If you handload, you have further options. If that doesn't work you might try simply sending the gun back and telling them your problem, which might be a good place to start!

Good discussion by 3/4Flap , but although it’s a nuisance to have to do it, this would probably be your best course of action:

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[Y]ou might try simply sending the gun back and telling them your problem

That POI is far enough off that it should be obvious that the gun is defective and the problem needs correcting. It would be interesting to learn how Kel-Tec responds to the issue.

Another possibility would be to explore aftermarket sight(s). A quick search failed to turn up an adjustable rear sight for the gun, but perhaps one exists and/or maybe there is a front sight with a greater range of adjustment.

Is this a gen 2 Sub2K?

Maybe the front sight is canted?

Ok so this may be a bit weird but are you sure you are picking up the center sight post with your peep? Not implying that you don't know how to use one, it's just that I noticed with the gen2 sub2000 I have, if I'm not careful it's easy to mistake one of the front sight ears for the center post. It's enough of a problem that I'm seriously considering marking the center post white at the top to differentiate it. I'm right handed and if I pick up the wrong post, it is always the right ear and of course that would make it shoot left. Just a thought.

I bought one and got the sig mag catch as well. Havent put the new catch in and haven't shot it yet. Contact Keltec and let us know what they say

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Originally posted by thunderson:
Ok so this may be a bit weird but are you sure you are picking up the center sight post with your peep?

Interesting thought. It’s hard to imagine someone’s doing that every time and not realizing his mistake, but I did the same thing the first time I fired an AK-type rifle. It was during a “battlefield pickup” stage of a local match, and the first time I fired such a gun: tight group, but way off in windage until I realized what I was doing.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by thunderson:
Ok so this may be a bit weird but are you sure you are picking up the center sight post with your peep?

Interesting thought. It’s hard to imagine someone’s doing that every time and not realizing his mistake, but I did the same thing the first time I fired an AK-type rifle. It was during a “battlefield pickup” stage of a local match, and the first time I fired such a gun: tight group, but way off in windage until I realized what I was doing.

That is not uncommon with quite a number of rifles. Going all the way back to the 1917 Enfield at least, and yes...I've done it myself!!

I suppose if a guy was pretty creative, he could the protective wings to advantage covering windage for leading strafing fight planes!

In truth, I believe this problem is why some have the ears curved off to the sides, to discourage such a mistaken sight picture.

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Originally posted by 3/4Flap:
That is not uncommon with quite a number of rifles. Going all the way back to the 1917 Enfield at least, and yes...I've done it myself!!

This was a somewhat common complaint with the vertical protective wings on the M1917, especially considering the fact that folks were more used to the single blade front sight on the other USGI Krag and M1903 rifles. Some soldiers took the drastic step of cutting/grinding off the protective wings on their M1917s, resulting in a more familiar front sight picture. (I know I have some photos of these field-modified M1917s around here somewhere, but I can't find them just yet...)

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In truth, I believe this problem is why some have the ears curved off to the sides, to discourage such a mistaken sight picture.

Yep. That was one of the complaints leveled against the M1 Garand in some of its initial configurations. Some of the early Garands had vertical protective wings, with later iterations of the Garand's protective wings receiving their familiar outward bend to address this. This outward bend became the standard USGI front sight picture as seen on the subsequent M1 Carbine/M14/M16/etc.

"Gas Trap" Garands straight and curved:


"Gas Port" Garands straight and curved:

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

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Originally posted by 3/4Flap:
That is not uncommon with quite a number of rifles. Going all the way back to the 1917 Enfield at least, and yes...I've done it myself!!

This was a somewhat common complaint with the vertical protective wings on the M1917, especially considering the fact that folks were more used to the single blade front sight on the other USGI Krag and M1903 rifles. Some soldiers took the drastic step of cutting/grinding off the protective wings on their M1917s, resulting in a more familiar front sight picture. (I know I have some photos of these field-modified M1917s around here somewhere, but I can't find them just yet...)

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In truth, I believe this problem is why some have the ears curved off to the sides, to discourage such a mistaken sight picture.

Yep. That was one of the complaints leveled against the M1 Garand in some of its initial configurations. Some of the early Garands had vertical protective wings, with later iterations of the Garand's protective wings receiving their familiar outward bend to address this. This outward bend became the standard USGI front sight picture as seen on the subsequent M1 Carbine/M14/M16/etc.

"Gas Trap" Garands straight and curved:


"Gas Port" Garands straight and curved:

You aren't going to tell us those are yours, are you?

C'mon, fess up.

You work at the Tojhus museet, don't you?

Hi , I have a Sub2000 9mm . I bought it new and had the same problem....

In checking it out, I found that the barrel was loose !! Loose enough to turn it by hand !! Not the sight loose...the whole barrel ! No warm fuzzies here ...

I assumed that there must be some kind of barrel nut that I could tighten...but no.... This design uses the forend hand guards to hold the barrel in place.... I wasn't impressed. I tightened about 10 of the little bolts that hold the forearm ...to no avail.

I sent it back to Keltec and got it back in about a month. I suspect that they simply changed fore ends for a slightly smaller one. It now works fine....time will tell if it ever loosens up again.

I like the gun....but pretty sure that it will never be used by Swat or Special Forces... it's mostly a range toy... JMO mike

PS: I feel your pain ( in your left hand) ....me too !