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Oriental Redneck
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I think I know the answer, but where to look for written confirmation. Say, I have a PSA pistol lower that I want to use to make a long gun with 16-inch barrel with an actual stock on it. Since this is not a NFA item, no ATF application/permit is required, correct?


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The rule is a pistol can go to a rifle and back. A rifle is always a rifle and going to a pistol is creating an SBR and you have to form1 it.


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https://www.atf.gov/firearms/q...-registering-firearm





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Originally posted by hrcjon:
The rule is a pistol can go to a rifle and back. A rifle is always a rifle and going to a pistol is creating an SBR and you have to form1 it.


I know about going from a pistol to a SBR (NFA item) requiring Form 1. That's the law all of us know.

My question about using a pistol lower to make 16-inch barreled rifle. It's obvious that, since it's a non-NFA item, no Form 1 is needed. But, is there any other form or application you have to fill out? I say no.

And, thanks James, for confirming with a written source.


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You do not require any federal form or paperwork (NFA or otherwise) to take a pistol to a rifle.
And you can go back and forth, again without any paperwork.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/q...-registering-firearm
which was noted above and there is in addition the referenced ATF guidance letter as well as numerous other letters on this subject, and the underlying legal case.


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https://palmettostatearmory.co...-lower-receiver.html

You can bypass this problem for $79


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Not exactly sure why that bypasses the problem? A stripped receiver is an other initially. The advantages of starting its life as a pistol are many, which include the ability to go back and forth between rifle and pistol. So I can't see why anyone would take a stripped receiver and make it a long gun initially. It makes no sense if you ever contemplate having an AR pistol -ever-.


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Legally a stripped lower is an "AOW" and if you assemble it yourself there is no way for anyone to know whether you initially built it as a rifle or a pistol. If it makes you feel better, slap a pistol extension on it for 30 seconds, then remove it and make a rifle out of it. You are now fully compliant with the law.
 
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A stripped receiver is not an "AOW". The rest of what you say is correct.


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A stripped receiver is not an "AOW". The rest of what you say is correct.

The correct term is simply "Other." That's the word I was trying to come up with.
 
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