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I have an opportunity to buy a Standard Products M1 Carbine made between Sept 43 and Jan 44. It has been refinished, and the stock magazine is almost a total bust (rust wise). It shoots well, but you have to put upward pressure on the magazine to get it to feed reliably. The seller found an after market magazine that I'm going to try tomorrow. Does anyone know of or have any opinions on this rifle? Looks like they made about 247,000 of them, but didn't manufacture any barrels.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Rolan_Kraps, Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | ||
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Rolan, buy it, shoot it and enjoy it. I have a Standard Products M1 similar to yours except it has a complete aftermarket stock that has a longer length to it. It also has a Winchester barrel and shoots wonderfully. I have an original stock for it but haven't switched it out. Just purchase some of the South Korean 15 round mags and you should be good. It sounds like the old GI mag has been compromised. Of my eight M1 Carbines I enjoy shooting my "SP" perhaps the most, probably because of the stock. But I can't use it in CMP matches. ----------------------------------------------- What's the sense in working hard if you never get to play? | |||
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An Early WWII receiver SP M1 Carbine for comparison, should you be interested. Standard Products M1 Carbine | |||
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mags are still not too expensive, and the Korean supposedly work very well, you didn't mention a price,,, https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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As long as it's reasonably priced, get it. The feeding issues are almost certainly from the old magazine. If it happens to still have feeding issues with a new magazine, the next thing to try would be replacing the magazine catch. Get one of the updated postwar M2 mag catches with the underlined M on the button. They're beefed up, and can solve feeding issues, especially with 30 round magazines.  While you're buying new mags and maybe a mag catch, grabbing a Wolff replacement spring kit is a good idea too. No telling how long it's been since the springs were replaced. And at around $15, they're cheap insurance. | |||
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Thanks guys. He hasn't really mentioned a price yet. Depends on if it is reliable. I'll take some pictures. Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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If it fires properly by putting upward pressure on the magazine, I'd buy it as is if you can get it cheap enough......make the guy a low offer as is......it's either magazine or the mag catch most likely......probably the magazine though..... | |||
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Instant Karma. Buy it and I will send you a couple of usgi mags. Email is in my profile. "I, however, place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared." Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Thanks Herkdriver. I sent you an email. Are you into C-130s? Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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USGI magazines with M1 carbines are the throw-away part, not the part that determines how well the rifle works. Buy it, get yourself a pack of Wolff springs (they sell a kit, it's worth it), get you some of those Korean mags and enjoy it.  ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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So that’s where they all went! -- I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. JALLEN 10/18/18 https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...610094844#7610094844 | |||
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Well, it is mine now. Going to order a spring kit and replacement magazine catch, and butt plate. Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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Congrats, Rolan! Enjoy that rifle. ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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Retired 130 pilot. So yeah, kinda "I, however, place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared." Thomas Jefferson | |||
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I really dig my M1 carbine, got it in 2014 or so, rebuilt and reparkerized by a gunsmith. I made it tacti-cool. Runs like a top. Great out to 100m. The Korean mags work just aa well or better than USGI mags. Enjoy. | |||
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And here she is! Now the work begins. Springs, magazine catch, and replacement butt have been ordered.  Photo Jan 27, 10 25 11 AM by Dave Steier, on Flickr  Photo Jan 27, 10 25 20 AM by Dave Steier, on Flickr  Photo Jan 27, 10 25 34 AM by Dave Steier, on Flickr  Photo Jan 27, 10 25 55 AM by Dave Steier, on Flickr Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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Wow. Nice early features! It even appears to have the early Dulite blue finish on many of its parts. Nearly every M1 Carbine has had the push button safety switched to a flip safety, the barrel band switched to one with an integral bayonet lug, and the rear sight replaced with a click-adjustable one. These upgrades were gradually introduced in late WW2 production, and retroactively applied to just about every carbine as they came through arsenals for repair/refurb. Carbines were also reparkerized during arsenal refurb. So this carbine has never had the postwar upgrades and total repark applied. As a result, I wouldn't bother with replacing the mag catch with a postwar upgraded one... Leave it the way it is. It's a nice collector piece. (Unfortunately, the stock has been refinished, which hurts its collectors value.) Here's an overview: WW2 configuration (yours) Late WW2 configuration Very late/post WW2 configuration  | |||
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Thanks. I'm going to replace the "rusty butt" and springs, but I'll save all the parts. Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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| Hop head |
reblued,, yes, Dulite,,, likely not, https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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Congrats! Let us know how she shoots once you get the parts installed. We love our carbines. I wouldn’t mind getting another one down the road. | |||
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