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Springfield Model 1903 Mark I
Nice little Christmas gift from my grandfather. I’ll admit I am not fully up on all the know about these older battle rifles.
In some quick looking the Mark I was only made for two years and was made to accomodate thing called the Pedersen Device. By removing the bolt and installing this device it converted the rifle to shoot a .30 caliber pistol round semi automatically with a 25 round capacity.
Not sure if just the 2 years of production makes this any more rare than other but a I am guessing I’ll never locate a Pedersen to go with it and even if I did would nowhere near be able to afford it.
I’ll try to get her cleaned up a touch tomorrow and snap some photos. What is the best thing to use to wipe down the old wood a little bit without harming it?


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Nice. Please post photos!




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I like Ballistol to wipe mil surps down. Stay away from linseed oil and the like. Congrats! Can't wait to see some pics.



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Will do once she is cleaned up a bit.
I am pretty sure it has been rebarreled as the barrel is stamped 7-42.
Pretty sure the Mark I was made from 16-18.


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Will do once she is cleaned up a bit.
I am pretty sure it has been rebarreled as the barrel is stamped 7-42.
Pretty sure the Mark I was made from 16-18.


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Do these need to be kept to garand .30-06 ammo or is there some these tend to like?


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Your rifle should be fine with any commercial loaded 30-06 ammo.

Boiled linseed oil will work for cleaning (the military actually issued it at one time for stock treatent). Lemon oil, not lemon furniture polish also works well for cleaning.
 
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The issue with using BLO is it softens the wood and offer no actual protection. It also tends to not really dry like a good finish unless you really work it into the wood, but then you still have the issues I mentioned above. Do some reading and decide whats best for you. I'd use something that won't change the color of the stock or leave a oily finish.



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Cabelas has Herters for $10 a box any issue with using it?
I got a gift card for Christmas can buy 20 boxes and then would have 400 cases to roll my own.


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https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...0601935/m/7110031824

Look in that thread for plenty of opinions on how to clean up that stock.

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Will do once she is cleaned up a bit.
I am pretty sure it has been rebarreled as the barrel is stamped 7-42.
Pretty sure the Mark I was made from 16-18.


Yes, it's had the barrel replaced for sure.
 
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The issue with using BLO is it softens the wood and offer no actual protection. It also tends to not really dry like a good finish unless you really work it into the wood, but then you still have the issues I mentioned above. Do some reading and decide whats best for you. I'd use something that won't change the color of the stock or leave a oily finish.


You're right about not offering long term protection, but it is a traditional military wood treatment. I've heard some others say that blo softens the wood, but others say that's not correct. I've never seen any issues with it, but I'm no chemist so wouldn't argue about it though.
 
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Does it still have the Mark 1 stock that's relieved around the Pederson ejection port?



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It does not have the relief cut in the stock. It also appears to have some sort of new production type of backend to the bolt.
Would it be possible to part a more original bolt and a MarkI stock or are those days long gone?




The stock is a bit musty and seems waxy and sticky. Still lots of cosmoline in the action and barrel so guess I need to tear it down and clean her up as I would like to shoot it.
What would be good for just kind of wiping up and cleaning the stock. That link above seemed to be more geared towards a full refinish.

Any issue with using Herters brass cased ammo in this thing? Certainly not going to be super accurate but will work for some fun shooting then have the brass to roll my own.


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http://thecmp.org/training-tec...-cleaning-article/#9

This was the most concise information that I gleaned from the above thread, told by the people that know the most, the CMP.

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The stock is a bit musty and seems waxy and sticky. Still lots of cosmoline in the action and barrel so guess I need to tear it down and clean her up as I would like to shoot it.
What would be good for just kind of wiping up and cleaning the stock. That link above seemed to be more geared towards a full refinish.


When Cosmoline is involved, it's often permeating the stock as well. The waxy/sticky can be all manor of things, including someones bad application of BLO.

A "full on refinish," is frankly what a stock like that could really use. That wood is in need of some care.


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flip it over and see if it has a B on the magazine plate.

if so, it was a CMP Greek return



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Here's another link with good info

http://www.garandgear.com/m1-garand-stock-cleaning

Since we want to avoid a complete refinish, the first thing I'd try is heating out as much cosmoline as possible, then wiping down with mineral spirits.
 
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The black bolt is likely NOS and was an arsenal replacement. see the second post in the below thread.

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=62631


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