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What's the current recommendation for RDS/minis on ARs?

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December 10, 2018, 10:33 AM
MNSIG
What's the current recommendation for RDS/minis on ARs?
At the time of the EoTech problems a few years back, I switched over to low power variable scopes on my two main ARs. While they are almost as quick as a red dot, obviously not quite.

Are the current crop of mini red dots (RMR, Delta Point) solid enough to consider or should I stick with what I have?
December 10, 2018, 10:36 AM
RHINOWSO
Most of the complaints I see with RMR / DPP on AR is problems in the rain and a tighter eyebox that more traditional RDS like Eotechs / Aimpoints / etc.

But people do use them and for a lightweight build it might be a consideration I guess. But it's hard IMO to beat a Aimpoint Micro with a solid mount.
December 10, 2018, 10:38 AM
RogueJSK
Aimpoint PRO.

Or Aimpoint Micro (H1/T1/etc.), if you want the little bit of size/weight savings, and your budget allows.
December 10, 2018, 10:42 AM
MNSIG
I haven't owned an Aimpoint, but tried a friend's once. I guess I didn't see much difference compared to a LPV. Still felt like looking down a tube. OTOH, it could have been the specific model he had (I don't recall which)
December 10, 2018, 10:47 AM
RHINOWSO
quote:
Originally posted by MNSIG:
I haven't owned an Aimpoint, but tried a friend's once. I guess I didn't see much difference compared to a LPV. Still felt like looking down a tube. OTOH, it could have been the specific model he had (I don't recall which)


Problem is you are closing your non-shooting eye.

Open both eyes and your FOV will be everything you can see with both eyes.
December 10, 2018, 10:49 AM
CD228
quote:
Originally posted by MNSIG:
I haven't owned an Aimpoint, but tried a friend's once. I guess I didn't see much difference compared to a LPV. Still felt like looking down a tube. OTOH, it could have been the specific model he had (I don't recall which)

Try shooting an Aimpoint with both eyes open. The tube will go away and you'll see the dot.

That said I've had an RMR on one of my ARs for a year. I don't shoot it enough to claim proficiency on it, but I haven't had any issues. I prefer my aimpoint pro or COMP M3 because sometimes I forget to open both eyes.
December 10, 2018, 01:27 PM
Strambo
There is also a big difference in performance of various sighting systems relaxed, on a range in daylight vs. under high stress, maybe from awkward positions, at night.

While an Aimpoint may seem just as fast as irons or a LPV scope with a good shooting position in daylight, that all changes and the Aimpoint (or similar RDS) "shines" the further away you get from ideal shooting conditions IMHO.




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December 10, 2018, 06:15 PM
RogueJSK
Yep. The unlimited eye relief of an Aimpoint is tough to beat in less than ideal conditions and positions.