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Rifle expert Simeon England demonstrates the proper use of Bear Oil, Dear Tallow, water, and tow cloth to clean a rifle.

I appreciate his down to earth attitude, notice he is barefoot and uses just a piece of cloth across his knees to keep those itty-bitty parts from being lost in the grass.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYVS7AnUAhg

Enjoy!!!

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Some of those ‘natural’ products may help in a pinch, can’t help but think one would be better served by more modern lubricants.

And then we can get into specifics of cleaning when shooting anything that burns ‘black powder’. That’s never the type of firearm you can leave sit for long after shooting. Black powder itself calls for a different cleaning regimen over modern cartridge gun cleaning.

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Originally posted by sourdough44:
Some of those ‘natural’ products may help in a pinch, can’t help but think one would be better served by more modern lubricants.

And then we can get into specifics of cleaning when shooting anything that burns ‘black powder’. That’s never the type of firearm you can leave sit for long after shooting. Black powder itself calls for a different cleaning regimen over modern cartridge gun cleaning.

That's the main reason I have never ventured down the black powder realm. I don't even like cleaning my ARs.

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Originally posted by myrottiety:

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Originally posted by sourdough44:
Some of those ‘natural’ products may help in a pinch, can’t help but think one would be better served by more modern lubricants.

And then we can get into specifics of cleaning when shooting anything that burns ‘black powder’. That’s never the type of firearm you can leave sit for long after shooting. Black powder itself calls for a different cleaning regimen over modern cartridge gun cleaning.

That's the main reason I have never ventured down the black powder realm. I don't even like cleaning my ARs.

Same here. I had an opportunity to fire a handful of rounds through a friends black powder Sharps, and enjoyed it quite a bit, but I dislike cleaning enough that there's no way I'm buying one.

I always find it a bit odd that those guys do all that, dress like that.....then post it on a social media account, with an iPhone. Just seems a bit hokey.

He tried posting it via telegraph but the resolution sucked.

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Originally posted by smithnsig:
I always find it a bit odd that those guys do all that, dress like that.....then post it on a social media account, with an iPhone. Just seems a bit hokey.

'cuz it's a challenge to post it on social media using a rotary phone... Doh!

I understand that people have different interests in the shooting sports, but I just can't get into older firearms of any kind. And definitely not black powder. More power to the folks willing to deal with historic weapons. A pre-'64 Windchester seems old to me.

I’ve done some ‘primitive’ over the years, from black powder to now the modern substitutes. The vast majority has been gearing up for deer hunting, extended seasons, IL rules mostly.

I did have a few black powder revolvers growing up, a Navy 36 cal one of the longest. I bought it when I was to young for a real handgun, even bagged a few things with it.

Now I just about only use Blackhorn 209 powder in my Knight inline. It’s more forgiving than black with cleaning, still don’t let it sit long after shooting.

It takes a bit more fiddling to use a M-L rifle, but it stacks deer up almost as well as a single-shot 308.

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Black powder has never been an interest of mine either. In this video, I am more interested in the mechanics and the internals of the design. I've never thought about how this class of firearms need to be maintained, until now.

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Originally posted by smithnsig:
I always find it a bit odd that those guys do all that, dress like that.....then post it on a social media account, with an iPhone. Just seems a bit hokey.

Too funny, its just an advanced version of Gunfighter Dress up Games, where people need a baby stroller to cart around a shotgun, a rifle, and some booolets.

Yeah, why would people enjoy a hobby? Those assholes.

What a lot of people miss about black powder is the joy of tinkering. Folks that reload know the joy of going through the motions to create that perfect round. One can do the same with black powder.

Finding the right combination of components can make a black powder rifle more accurate than the sum of it's parts at reasonable distances.

It's a hoot.

Plus you can shoot all day and not blow through a thousand rounds of ammo.

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Originally posted by thunderson:
What a lot of people miss about black powder is the joy of tinkering.
Plus you can shoot all day and not blow through a thousand rounds of ammo.

Even the most intensive carbine courses don't consume 1,000 rounds in a day. But yes, if a carbine owner wants to shoot 1,000 rounds in a day, he can easily do so. For many of us, shooting 100 rounds is a good day, and that can easily occur in an our or two.

Black powder is more about futzing around between shots. That's a whole lot of futzing and not so much shooting.

What black powder users miss is the joy of actually shooting.

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Originally posted by fritz:

Even the most intensive carbine courses don't consume 1,000 rounds in a day. But yes, if a carbine owner wants to shoot 1,000 rounds in a day, he can easily do so. For many of us, shooting 100 rounds is a good day, and that can easily occur in an our or two.

Black powder is more about futzing around between shots. That's a whole lot of futzing and not so much shooting.

What black powder users miss is the joy of actually shooting.

Different strokes for different folks. It's akin to the old angler argument. As a kid I really enjoyed catching, but as an adult I think fishing is kinda cool.

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Originally posted by thunderson:
Different strokes for different folks. It's akin to the old angler argument. As a kid I really enjoyed catching, but as an adult I think fishing is kinda cool.

Got it.
I started fishing as a youngster with Dad. Never really cared for it in mountain streams and lakes. In my college years we tried sea fishing for salmon and halibut -- suddenly fishing was fun. Fishing and catching. Dad and I fished in Alaska last August -- lots of action, tons of fun. The one King Salmon I caught took a long time to reel in, as it kept stripping line each time it came close to the boat. Fishing doesn't get any better than that. Well, maybe except for the real monsters (King salmon and halibut) I brought in years ago -- where fights lasted around an hour. Some of the times I just brought the big fish in for a quick picture, then let them go. Got to keep the best ones in the gene pool.

I played a bunch of sports growing up. In football I preferred quarterback over punter, although I could do both. In soccer I preferred forward over goalie. Baseball & fast-pitch softball -- pitcher or shortstop over catcher or first base. In rock climbing, leader rather than belayer. In skiing I chose the path of ski racing rather than ski patrolling. In shooting sports, it's shooter over spotter or RO.

Yep, I lean toward Type A, and have no qualms about it.