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December 17, 2020, 06:00 PM
m58
Remington Model 8 and 81
They are a really neat old rifles designed by JMB as one of the first semi-auto rifles available.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsQXksP-YhI.

http://thegreatmodel8.remingtonsociety.com/

I have a Model 81 in .35 Remington and it is one of my favorites. There is just something about the recoiling barrel system and the AK style safety lever.
In addition it has a history of being involved in the take down of Bonnie and Clyde by Frank Hamer.


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December 17, 2020, 07:01 PM
Micropterus
Great rifles! In .35 Remington is one of my grail guns I've never acquired.


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December 17, 2020, 07:56 PM
cas
Mine’s a .32 Remington




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December 17, 2020, 08:39 PM
RogueJSK
They're very cool guns, and actually saw a little use in WW1 by the French military, who bought a few hundred Model 8s in .35 Remington for use by French air crews and observers against German observation balloons.

If you like the Model 8/81, there's a great book on its history and development by John Henwood. Unfortunately, it's out of print, and used copies are scarce and pricey ($200+).


December 17, 2020, 08:52 PM
Micropterus
I have several Remington, DuPont, Marlin and Winchester prints still in plastic ready to frame. I've had them for years and never displayed them. Among them...




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December 17, 2020, 08:56 PM
Bassamatic
Frank Hammer did not use his Model 8 in the Bonnie and Clyde take down. He used a Colt Monitor. One of the other deputies did use a Model 8 though.


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December 17, 2020, 10:12 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by m58:
In addition it has a history of being involved in the take down of Bonnie and Clyde by Frank Hamer.


quote:
Originally posted by Bassamatic:
Frank Hammer did not use his Model 8 in the Bonnie and Clyde take down. He used a Colt Monitor. One of the other deputies did use a Model 8 though.


There was a Colt Monitor used in the ambush of Bonnie and Clyde, but there's still debate over whether it was Hamer or Gault who used it during the actual ambush. Sources differ.

And there were 3 Remington Model 8s present, one of which was used by either Hamer or Gault (whichever one wasn't using the Monitor).

Frank Hamer - Colt Monitor in .30-06, or Remington Model 8 with extended magazine in .35 Remington
Manny Gault - Remington Model 8 with extended magazine in .35 Remington, or Colt Monitor in .30-06
Bienville Parish Sheriff Henderson Jordan - Winchester 94 in .30-30
Bienville Parish Deputy Prentis Oakley - Remington Model 8 in .35 Remington, borrowed from Louisiana dentist Dr. Henry Sheheen
Dallas County Deputy Bob Alcorn - Remington Model 8, unknown caliber (probably .35 Remington too)
Dallas County Deputy Ted Hinton - BAR in .30-06, borrowed from the Texas National Guard


So you're both right. I mean, you're both wrong. I mean, one's right and the other's wrong, but we'll probably never know for sure which is which. Big Grin
December 18, 2020, 03:24 PM
K.O.A.M.
I inherited a Model 81 in .35 Remington. Fun shooting gun and a neat piece of history.


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December 18, 2020, 07:51 PM
car541
I have an 81 in .300 savage. Best caliber they ever made it in. It’s long recoil system is a blast to shoot.

If you ever get the chance to take one apart, it becomes obvious that one was on hand when the Kalishnikov fire control group was designed.


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December 18, 2020, 09:56 PM
Bassamatic
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:


There was a Colt Monitor used in the ambush of Bonnie and Clyde, but there's still debate over whether it was Hamer or Gault who used it during the actual ambush. Sources differ.

And there were 3 Remington Model 8s present, one of which was used by either Hamer or Gault (whichever one wasn't using the Monitor).

Frank Hamer - Colt Monitor in .30-06, or Remington Model 8 with extended magazine in .35 Remington
Manny Gault - Remington Model 8 with extended magazine in .35 Remington, or Colt Monitor in .30-06
Bienville Parish Sheriff Henderson Jordan - Winchester 94 in .30-30
Bienville Parish Deputy Prentis Oakley - Remington Model 8 in .35 Remington, borrowed from Louisiana dentist Dr. Henry Sheheen
Dallas County Deputy Bob Alcorn - Remington Model 8, unknown caliber (probably .35 Remington too)
Dallas County Deputy Ted Hinton - BAR in .30-06, borrowed from the Texas National Guard


So you're both right. I mean, you're both wrong. I mean, one's right and the other's wrong, but we'll probably never know for sure which is which. Big Grin


Interesting. But, I'm sticking with my original claim based on interviews he gave after. Legend has it Prentiss Oakley was the one who put the bullet behind the ear of old Clyde. Hammer gave strict instructions for no one to fire until he did but Oakley couldn't stand it as he was on the driver side of car Clyde drove (in the bushes) and had a clear shot through the window at Clyde's head.

There are so any good books on this. Smile


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